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My personal and probably not unique prediction is that these people will be let go and not be paid - same thing he did with twitter.
by root_axis 2y ago
My personal and probably not unique prediction is that these people will be let go and not be paid - same thing he did with twitter.
- fred_is_fred 2y agoIt is worth looking back at President Musk's previous actions here. I know the twitter engineers sued. Was it ever settled?
- hypothesis 2y agoIt appears most of those claims went to arbitration, so we are unlikely to learn results… https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/most-lawsuit-over-musks-twitter-layoffs-should-proceed-us-magistrate-rules-2024-12-05/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/most-lawsuit-over-m...
- justin66 2y agoThere are some pretty significant differences between Twitter employees and federal government employees, starting with the fact that a lot of latter group are part of a powerful union.
- toss1 2y agoSure, but even in a normal situation, all the Union can do is provide greater resources to initiate legal and possibly work actions. Which, in a normal situation might be very effective. This is NOT anything resembling a normal situation; to treat it as such is merely an exercise in normalcy bias. Under an authoritarian regime, as is being setup as we type, legal actions are irrelevant as the judicial and legislative branches lose independence and serve the executive. Work actions likely result in the union being decertified and dissolved.
- root_axis 2y agoLet's see what happens. At this point, I'm not convinced the union has any leverage.
- bmitc 2y agoThe federal employee unions have incredible power, often to the detriment of the government.
- root_axis 2y agoLike I said, at this point I'm not convinced they have any leverage.
- delfinom 2y agoPretty sure they will just executive order the unions are void, Congress won't do a thing and the courts may get to it in 3 decades.
- flustercan 2y agoThat power comes from the idea that the federal employees can shut down government operations if they stop working. This administration (supposedly) wants dearly to shut down government operations, so the union doesn't have any power.
- ahi 2y agopatco was also a powerful union. Trump has already declared he will nullify the AFGE contract (legality be damned).
- bongodongobob 2y agoYeah well some dude from South Africa is running around in government buildings fucking with computers and no one seems to be doing anything about it. Anything goes these days. Union or not.
- elicash 2y agoThey are part of a union (actually, different unions, plural). But none of those unions are among the more powerful unions.
- duxup 2y agoI think they'd "like" to, but he legal protections for the employees in this case are vast compared to twitter. But as an employee, I would worry that they would try... we already have an administration that SCOTUS has decided is above the law in other ways.
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- whamlastxmas 2y agoTo make that blanket statement about twitter layoffs is just blatantly not true
- root_axis 2y agoWhich part isn't true?