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Today I wasted 1 hour looking in how to use or where to find "Deep Research”. I could not. I have the business workplace standard, which contains the Gemini ad

Today I wasted 1 hour looking in how to use or where to find "Deep Research”. I could not. I have the business workplace standard, which contains the Gemini advance, not sure whether I need a VPN, pay a separate AI product, or even pay a higher workplace tier or what the heck is going on at all. There are so many confusing products interrelated and lack of focus everywhere that I really do not know anymore whether it is worth as an AI provider.

gerad 2y ago
You need to pay for Gemini to access it. In my experience, it's not worth it. So much potential in the experience, but the AI isn't good enough. I'm curious about the OpenAI alternative, but am not willing to pay $200/month.
- diamondfist25 2y ago
  Deep research in chatgpt pro is nice. It’ll go fetch api docs (and github examples) and make your code more correct. Saved me the headache of manually going thru pages of doc
- nudpiedo 2y ago
  if it would make whole market research on products and companies I would gladly pay for it... but a bit unsure from Europe where it seems to be everything restricted due political boundaries.
  - A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
    I have OpenAI Deep Research access in Europe and it is extremely good. It's also particularly good at niche market research in products and companies. Happy to give you a demo. If you want to send me a prompt, I can share a link to the resulting output.
    - nudpiedo 2y ago
      I wish to know how to access it for myself, but how may I contact you? is it chatGPT Plus, Pro or something else? Where are you based UK or Germany? I was hoping for a market research on SysML tooling.
      - stavros 2y ago
        See the top of the announcement: https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ It's Pro only for now.
      - A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
        Just post your prompt here and I'll give you a link to the response. Deep research requires pretty detailed prompts in order to generate high-quality reports. I'm usually in Croatia but am right now in Greece. My account ($200 Pro account) works the same wherever I am, even when I'm outside the EU, e.g. in Serbia.
    - nudpiedo 2y ago
      Thanks for the offering, seriously, it is an important investment/cost I wasn't sure it would be worth right now. (If you wish to I added some contact information, for an easier chat, in my HN profile; just for the following day). Here is a realistic case I would have used Short prompt: "research the market of the SysML products and industry cap, key actors, opportunities and advantages" Expanded prompt: “Conduct a detailed market analysis of SysML (Systems Modeling Language) products and services, focusing on the following aspects: 1. Industry Overview: • Current market size and growth trends for SysML-related products and services. • Global market cap or valuation of the SysML industry or similar system engineering software. 2. Key Players: • Identify major companies and organizations offering SysML tools, including established leaders and emerging competitors. • Provide a brief description of each key player’s products, innovations, and market share. 3. Product Offerings: • Highlight the range of SysML-based products available (e.g., modeling software, integration tools, training services). • Compare features, target industries, and pricing strategies. 4. Market Opportunities: • Explore new or underserved industries where SysML adoption could grow (e.g., aerospace, automotive, healthcare). • Identify gaps in current product offerings that represent potential areas for innovation or competitive advantage. 5. Competitive Advantages: • Analyze what makes SysML valuable to companies (e.g., improving system complexity management, ensuring design consistency). • Evaluate how SysML tools offer a competitive advantage compared to alternative solutions like UML or other system modeling methods. 6. Challenges and Risks: • Discuss potential challenges such as market saturation, training requirements, or competing technologies. • Highlight external factors that could affect market growth, such as regulations or advances in adjacent industries. Provide sources where relevant, including reports, studies, or insights from industry experts.” Hvala.
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jerpint 2y ago
Similar feeling with Gemini g suite integration

gerad 2y ago

You need to pay for Gemini to access it. In my experience, it's not worth it. So much potential in the experience, but the AI isn't good enough. I'm curious about the OpenAI alternative, but am not willing to pay $200/month.

diamondfist25 2y ago
Deep research in chatgpt pro is nice. It’ll go fetch api docs (and github examples) and make your code more correct. Saved me the headache of manually going thru pages of doc
nudpiedo 2y ago
if it would make whole market research on products and companies I would gladly pay for it... but a bit unsure from Europe where it seems to be everything restricted due political boundaries.
- A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
  I have OpenAI Deep Research access in Europe and it is extremely good. It's also particularly good at niche market research in products and companies. Happy to give you a demo. If you want to send me a prompt, I can share a link to the resulting output.
  - nudpiedo 2y ago
    I wish to know how to access it for myself, but how may I contact you? is it chatGPT Plus, Pro or something else? Where are you based UK or Germany? I was hoping for a market research on SysML tooling.
    - stavros 2y ago
      See the top of the announcement: https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ It's Pro only for now.
    - A_D_E_P_T 2y ago
      Just post your prompt here and I'll give you a link to the response. Deep research requires pretty detailed prompts in order to generate high-quality reports. I'm usually in Croatia but am right now in Greece. My account ($200 Pro account) works the same wherever I am, even when I'm outside the EU, e.g. in Serbia.
  - nudpiedo 2y ago
    Thanks for the offering, seriously, it is an important investment/cost I wasn't sure it would be worth right now. (If you wish to I added some contact information, for an easier chat, in my HN profile; just for the following day). Here is a realistic case I would have used Short prompt: "research the market of the SysML products and industry cap, key actors, opportunities and advantages" Expanded prompt: “Conduct a detailed market analysis of SysML (Systems Modeling Language) products and services, focusing on the following aspects: 1. Industry Overview: • Current market size and growth trends for SysML-related products and services. • Global market cap or valuation of the SysML industry or similar system engineering software. 2. Key Players: • Identify major companies and organizations offering SysML tools, including established leaders and emerging competitors. • Provide a brief description of each key player’s products, innovations, and market share. 3. Product Offerings: • Highlight the range of SysML-based products available (e.g., modeling software, integration tools, training services). • Compare features, target industries, and pricing strategies. 4. Market Opportunities: • Explore new or underserved industries where SysML adoption could grow (e.g., aerospace, automotive, healthcare). • Identify gaps in current product offerings that represent potential areas for innovation or competitive advantage. 5. Competitive Advantages: • Analyze what makes SysML valuable to companies (e.g., improving system complexity management, ensuring design consistency). • Evaluate how SysML tools offer a competitive advantage compared to alternative solutions like UML or other system modeling methods. 6. Challenges and Risks: • Discuss potential challenges such as market saturation, training requirements, or competing technologies. • Highlight external factors that could affect market growth, such as regulations or advances in adjacent industries. Provide sources where relevant, including reports, studies, or insights from industry experts.” Hvala.
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jerpint 2y ago

Similar feeling with Gemini g suite integration