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It was an open secret for a while, that new model Y is coming. So why buy an old one when few months in the future you can get current model and not the outdate

by lnsru 2y ago

It was an open secret for a while, that new model Y is coming. So why buy an old one when few months in the future you can get current model and not the outdated one. Everyone is just waiting to buy new model Y. I took the risk, got old one year ago and now I am very happy, that the new one is rather facelift with couple percent better range and not a revolutionary upgrade. This would be pity. I am just wondering about price strategy, because new one is expensive at the beginning.

poniko 2y ago
Yea that's not the main reason, Musk is toxic for the brand. A recent poll in Sweden saw 68% has a negative view of Musk today, up 20% in the past weeks alone.
- Snild 2y ago
  And it's likely to get more negative as Musk retweets disinformation about the national tragedy this week: https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sverige/elon-musk-sprider-logn-om-massakern/ https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sverige/elon-musk-sprider-l...
WJW 2y ago
If that were the actual reason then why did the sales drop so much in the last month? Surely the new model Y has been coming for a while now, it is difficult to imagine that it would cause a >40% drop across the board from month to month. Rather it seems very likely that Musk is extremely toxic to the brand at the moment. He is very closely aligned to a president who is actively threatening a trade war against the EU, after all. It would be weird if EU citizens just pretended that wasn't a thing.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago
  >If that were the actual reason then why did the sales drop so much in the last month? Because why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? The Juniper is the last update of a 5 year old model. The reviews says it was well worth the wait.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? This take is not supported by the data. Used Tesla prices are crashing across the board. Sales are crashing across the board. Polls show clear negative sentiment towards the brand. The old lineup isn’t helping. And yes, there will be a blip when the Y comes out. Tesla builds good cars and plenty of people buy on price and quality. But there is a reason most cars come in black, grey and white—consumers are conservative about cars as a statement about themselves. Owning a Tesla, today, is a political statement. Even among those who agree with Musk, most don’t want to signal that day to day.
  - tzs 2y ago
    > Because why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? You want to buy before Trump gets rid of the $7500 EV tax credit?
- graemep 2y ago
  I doubt it is the trade war. I think it is his attempts to interfere in European politics. Musk has done this in both the UK and Germany, and is signalling doing this in other places. In the UK trying to help an extremist most people loathe (Tommy Robinson) is not going to make you popular. I am guessing that in Germany a lot of people loathe AfD so there is a similar, probably stronger, effect. From a UK point of view, even if Trump imposes tariffs on our imports, that might be a problem, but it is not repulsive in the way backing an extremist is.
tshaddox 2y ago
Worth noting that this is not a new phenomenon. Pretty much every model gets a full redesign every 6 years or so, and a “mid-generation refresh” every 3 years or so.

by lnsru 2y ago

poniko 2y ago

Yea that's not the main reason, Musk is toxic for the brand. A recent poll in Sweden saw 68% has a negative view of Musk today, up 20% in the past weeks alone.

Snild 2y ago
And it's likely to get more negative as Musk retweets disinformation about the national tragedy this week: https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sverige/elon-musk-sprider-logn-om-massakern/ https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sverige/elon-musk-sprider-l...

WJW 2y ago

If that were the actual reason then why did the sales drop so much in the last month? Surely the new model Y has been coming for a while now, it is difficult to imagine that it would cause a >40% drop across the board from month to month. Rather it seems very likely that Musk is extremely toxic to the brand at the moment. He is very closely aligned to a president who is actively threatening a trade war against the EU, after all. It would be weird if EU citizens just pretended that wasn't a thing.

rcMgD2BwE72F 2y ago
>If that were the actual reason then why did the sales drop so much in the last month? Because why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? The Juniper is the last update of a 5 year old model. The reviews says it was well worth the wait.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? This take is not supported by the data. Used Tesla prices are crashing across the board. Sales are crashing across the board. Polls show clear negative sentiment towards the brand. The old lineup isn’t helping. And yes, there will be a blip when the Y comes out. Tesla builds good cars and plenty of people buy on price and quality. But there is a reason most cars come in black, grey and white—consumers are conservative about cars as a statement about themselves. Owning a Tesla, today, is a political statement. Even among those who agree with Musk, most don’t want to signal that day to day.
- tzs 2y ago
  > Because why buy a Model Y in December at full price, when you can order the new version for the same price? You want to buy before Trump gets rid of the $7500 EV tax credit?
graemep 2y ago
I doubt it is the trade war. I think it is his attempts to interfere in European politics. Musk has done this in both the UK and Germany, and is signalling doing this in other places. In the UK trying to help an extremist most people loathe (Tommy Robinson) is not going to make you popular. I am guessing that in Germany a lot of people loathe AfD so there is a similar, probably stronger, effect. From a UK point of view, even if Trump imposes tariffs on our imports, that might be a problem, but it is not repulsive in the way backing an extremist is.

tshaddox 2y ago

Worth noting that this is not a new phenomenon. Pretty much every model gets a full redesign every 6 years or so, and a “mid-generation refresh” every 3 years or so.