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The commercial eggs also last forever outside the fridge. That thing about the natural sealant is a widely believed myth. Source: I leave my commercial eggs ou

by ars 2y ago

The commercial eggs also last forever outside the fridge. That thing about the natural sealant is a widely believed myth. Source: I leave my commercial eggs outside the fridge, and they last with zero problems.

declan_roberts 2y ago
I don't think it's a myth compared to unwashed eggs. You should try leaving washed eggs out on the counter for 20+ days (incubation for a chicken) and see.
- ars 2y ago
  I've left them for 2 months (I found a big sale, so I bought a bunch). The yolk broke easily when I opened the egg, but it was perfectly fine to eat. And it was not small and dried out as implied by someone in the thread.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    Food borne illnesses are not a guarantee, and doing the thing the FDA calls dangerous a hundred times might still mean you never get sick, because you got lucky or some other safety caught you. I have eaten genuinely year old (and older) eggs with no issues. That doesn't mean it is a myth that eggs only last 5 weeks in the fridge, it just means that I was putting myself in extra danger out of a weird sense of frugality and laziness. I've also eaten pounds and pounds of raw cookie dough and not gotten sick, but that doesn't mean raw cookie dough doesn't have an inherent salmonella danger (ironically for this conversation it mostly comes from the flour!)
    - nearbuy 2y ago
      This is true, but the FDA doesn't back up the original claim that unwashed eggs don't need to be refrigerated. They say to put all eggs in the fridge.
- bena 2y ago
  Are you implying that these eggs would incubate chicks? Or are you using the incubation time as a sort of natural timer? Like they would last that long if they were unwashed, but washed eggs wouldn't last even the incubation period.
bink 2y ago
As I understand it this can be safe or not-so-safe depending on where you live. If you're in the US you're likely buying sanitized eggs, whereas that's not standard practice in most other countries.
sva_ 2y ago
> source: anecdote/survivorship bias
sethammons 2y ago
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8561600/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8561600/ what myth are you talking about? The study found that washed eggs had higher bacterial counts in their contents after storage compared to unwashed eggs, particularly at higher temperatures. Key findings include: Cold Storage (4°C for 8 weeks): There was no significant difference in bacterial counts between washed and unwashed eggs. Warm Storage (30°C for 12 days): Washed eggs showed significantly higher bacterial contamination, suggesting that washing increased the likelihood of bacterial penetration. Bacterial Types: The number of hemolytic bacteria and coli-aerogenes was also higher in washed eggs.
- ars 2y ago
  First of all the washing procedure they used is not what is used commercially. Commercially they also spray mineral oil on the eggs which this study did not do. And then of course there's this line: "These differences between unwashed and washed eggs are not significant."

by ars 2y ago

declan_roberts 2y ago

I don't think it's a myth compared to unwashed eggs. You should try leaving washed eggs out on the counter for 20+ days (incubation for a chicken) and see.

ars 2y ago
I've left them for 2 months (I found a big sale, so I bought a bunch). The yolk broke easily when I opened the egg, but it was perfectly fine to eat. And it was not small and dried out as implied by someone in the thread.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  Food borne illnesses are not a guarantee, and doing the thing the FDA calls dangerous a hundred times might still mean you never get sick, because you got lucky or some other safety caught you. I have eaten genuinely year old (and older) eggs with no issues. That doesn't mean it is a myth that eggs only last 5 weeks in the fridge, it just means that I was putting myself in extra danger out of a weird sense of frugality and laziness. I've also eaten pounds and pounds of raw cookie dough and not gotten sick, but that doesn't mean raw cookie dough doesn't have an inherent salmonella danger (ironically for this conversation it mostly comes from the flour!)
  - nearbuy 2y ago
    This is true, but the FDA doesn't back up the original claim that unwashed eggs don't need to be refrigerated. They say to put all eggs in the fridge.
bena 2y ago
Are you implying that these eggs would incubate chicks? Or are you using the incubation time as a sort of natural timer? Like they would last that long if they were unwashed, but washed eggs wouldn't last even the incubation period.

bink 2y ago

As I understand it this can be safe or not-so-safe depending on where you live. If you're in the US you're likely buying sanitized eggs, whereas that's not standard practice in most other countries.

sva_ 2y ago

> source: anecdote/survivorship bias

sethammons 2y ago

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8561600/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8561600/ what myth are you talking about? The study found that washed eggs had higher bacterial counts in their contents after storage compared to unwashed eggs, particularly at higher temperatures. Key findings include: Cold Storage (4°C for 8 weeks): There was no significant difference in bacterial counts between washed and unwashed eggs. Warm Storage (30°C for 12 days): Washed eggs showed significantly higher bacterial contamination, suggesting that washing increased the likelihood of bacterial penetration. Bacterial Types: The number of hemolytic bacteria and coli-aerogenes was also higher in washed eggs.

ars 2y ago
First of all the washing procedure they used is not what is used commercially. Commercially they also spray mineral oil on the eggs which this study did not do. And then of course there's this line: "These differences between unwashed and washed eggs are not significant."