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Trump's platform was bad, that does not make it reasonable to trivialize cost of living. Notwithstanding that Biden was punished for inflationary spending, all

Trump's platform was bad, that does not make it reasonable to trivialize cost of living. Notwithstanding that Biden was punished for inflationary spending, all Trump had to do was lean on the perception that people "had it better" in his term. You don't need to lower prices if your wages go up, and notwithstanding that this lags, the perception has been that wages have not kept up. Obviously the intuition was that electing Trump would lead to better outcomes, not some nefarious hidden motivation behind every voter. > So all the complaints about high prices was just for show since they don't actually care. That is not what it shows. All it telegraphs is that expectations are distorted. The polls were clear that inflation was the #1 motivating factor. Black, hispanic, and Asian voters all shifted right. Harris did ok with whites. Is that because those voters do not care about prices? Is that because you think those people of color are stupid? Be serious.

hypeatei 2y ago
Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said. This happened internationally as well: incumbents lost. The rate of inflation and economy were doing quite well, with wages being higher than ever before[0]. No one is saying these people can't complain about high prices, but that we can't lie to ourselves about the solution. It was obvious to many that Trump would not fix this on day one and possibly make it worse. Now we're seeing the start of a potential trade war. 0: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are-higher-than-they-have-ever-been-and-employment-is-near-its-all-time-high/ https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are...
- slothtrop 2y ago
  > Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said. Most of it had no bearing on my point in the first place, but your claim that voters "didn't actually care" was refuted and you haven't offered a credible reason to believe it. > It was obvious to many Not to Trump's voters.
  - hypeatei 2y ago
    The "didn't actually care" was because, in light of all the memeing and facts, not to mention Trump's history with tariffs, they still voted for him. That would indicate to me that people don't invest much time in their voting choices and don't actually care. I personally think it was a nice talking point that converted some on the fence, but overall was just a vessel to further right wing/Christian fascism.

hypeatei 2y ago

Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said. This happened internationally as well: incumbents lost. The rate of inflation and economy were doing quite well, with wages being higher than ever before[0]. No one is saying these people can't complain about high prices, but that we can't lie to ourselves about the solution. It was obvious to many that Trump would not fix this on day one and possibly make it worse. Now we're seeing the start of a potential trade war. 0: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are-higher-than-they-have-ever-been-and-employment-is-near-its-all-time-high/ https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are...

slothtrop 2y ago
> Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said. Most of it had no bearing on my point in the first place, but your claim that voters "didn't actually care" was refuted and you haven't offered a credible reason to believe it. > It was obvious to many Not to Trump's voters.
- hypeatei 2y ago
  The "didn't actually care" was because, in light of all the memeing and facts, not to mention Trump's history with tariffs, they still voted for him. That would indicate to me that people don't invest much time in their voting choices and don't actually care. I personally think it was a nice talking point that converted some on the fence, but overall was just a vessel to further right wing/Christian fascism.