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20k represents 1%. The target is 5-10%. The messaging is 100-200k federal layoff is coming.

by sampton 2y ago

varsketiz 2y ago
Since the turover rate per year is 6%, implemented hiring freeze would yield theese results.
- sampton 2y ago
  Does the 6% number includes churn between departments? Unless ICE can absorb 100k+ headcount the number will be much lower this year.
- pixl97 2y ago
  1) You're assuming these leadership clowns are that smart 2) They are targeting particular employees more.
- bhouston 2y ago
  Which is exactly what Canadian government has been doing for a while now after the service ballooned during the pandemic, e.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1g9qy1w/hiring_freeze_budget_cuts_workplaceworkforce/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1g9qy...
- vaccineai 2y ago
  there is a hiring freeze https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiring-freeze/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiri.... this buyout is meant to accelerate
s3r3nity 2y ago
These tend to work through in stages: fastest ones to accept were already looking, and next up are those that are on the fence, and so on... The 8-month buyout offer is significantly better than the one-time offer from Clinton in the 90's [1], even adjusting for inflation, so I'd expect that there's a large group of individuals & families that are just taking the time to evaluate the decision. [https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-the-buyout-program-for-federal-employees https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-the-buyo...]
- leoqa 2y ago
  Interesting precedent thanks for sharing.
- umeshunni 2y ago
  Amazing. That offer (and website in general) look and sound identical to what the current administration is proposing.
  - zerocrates 2y ago
    Well, except that Clinton went to Congress for authorization to make those offers and got a law passed, and didn't do a blanket offer to every employee they could blast out an email to, and did them as actual buyouts rather than extended no-work leave.
tootie 2y ago
They have separately promised $1T or even $2T in cuts and and laying off 200K won't even come close. Not to mention they are offering these as blanket buyouts seemingly without regard for job function so they will inevitably end up needing to hire back some percentage of roles unless (as I suspect) they intend to just stop doing a bunch of critical work.
vaccineai 2y ago
it's now 40k, so 2%. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/02/05/trumps-federal-buyout-offer-expires-tomorrow-as-over-40000-staff-agree-to-leave-heres-what-to-know/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/02/05/trumps-fede...

20k represents 1%. The target is 5-10%. The messaging is 100-200k federal layoff is coming.

varsketiz 2y ago

Since the turover rate per year is 6%, implemented hiring freeze would yield theese results.

sampton 2y ago
Does the 6% number includes churn between departments? Unless ICE can absorb 100k+ headcount the number will be much lower this year.
pixl97 2y ago
1) You're assuming these leadership clowns are that smart 2) They are targeting particular employees more.
bhouston 2y ago
Which is exactly what Canadian government has been doing for a while now after the service ballooned during the pandemic, e.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1g9qy1w/hiring_freeze_budget_cuts_workplaceworkforce/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1g9qy...
vaccineai 2y ago
there is a hiring freeze https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiring-freeze/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/hiri.... this buyout is meant to accelerate

s3r3nity 2y ago

These tend to work through in stages: fastest ones to accept were already looking, and next up are those that are on the fence, and so on... The 8-month buyout offer is significantly better than the one-time offer from Clinton in the 90's [1], even adjusting for inflation, so I'd expect that there's a large group of individuals & families that are just taking the time to evaluate the decision. [https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-the-buyout-program-for-federal-employees https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-the-buyo...]

leoqa 2y ago
Interesting precedent thanks for sharing.
umeshunni 2y ago
Amazing. That offer (and website in general) look and sound identical to what the current administration is proposing.
- zerocrates 2y ago
  Well, except that Clinton went to Congress for authorization to make those offers and got a law passed, and didn't do a blanket offer to every employee they could blast out an email to, and did them as actual buyouts rather than extended no-work leave.

tootie 2y ago

They have separately promised $1T or even $2T in cuts and and laying off 200K won't even come close. Not to mention they are offering these as blanket buyouts seemingly without regard for job function so they will inevitably end up needing to hire back some percentage of roles unless (as I suspect) they intend to just stop doing a bunch of critical work.

vaccineai 2y ago

it's now 40k, so 2%. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/02/05/trumps-federal-buyout-offer-expires-tomorrow-as-over-40000-staff-agree-to-leave-heres-what-to-know/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/02/05/trumps-fede...