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Musk isn't being targeted for beliefs, he's being targeted for actions. There's a substantial difference between those concepts.

whimsicalism 2y ago
what actions? and why is an EV credit bill the appropriate vehicle to do so, rather than say.. the court system?
- taylodl 2y ago
  What actions? You can't be serious! And courts are for crimes. The crimes Musk is currently committing is at the behest of Trump and, unless we follow the precedent set at Nuremberg, Trump is responsible for those crimes. Even so, the courts can't do anything about it because the legislature is responsible for trying the Chief Executive. Is the EV credit bill the appropriate vehicle to get Musk to reconsider his actions? All I can say is it's a vehicle. I'm not a member of the legislature and I don't play one on TV. It appears Musk was poorly raised and never taught there are consequences to actions, even if you're free to perform the action. As a matter of fact, it seems like a lot of people never learned that important life lesson.
  - whimsicalism 2y ago
    when did politics become like this.. nuremberg? the nazis killed 6m, i feel like you are living in a parallel reality > never taught there are consequences to actions, even if you're free to perform the action you are not free to perform an action if the government punishes you for performing that action
    - taylodl 2y ago
      Other citizens may punish you for your actions. For example, a large number of people are no longer buying Teslas because of Musk's actions. As far as government creating regulations affecting Musk, well, Musk thumbed his nose to government regulations and showed his ass. What, the wittle baby can't take what he dishes out? How lame!
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
    Ok so after all that … there’s nothing criminal about what he’s doing? Is that the summary?
    - taylodl 2y ago
      There's a fine line being drawn here. While what Musk is doing may be illegal, it's at the behest of the President, which typically means the President would be held accountable, not Musk. However, if we apply the legal precedent set at Nuremberg, where following unlawful orders is itself a crime, Musk could still be held responsible. In Musk's case, he might not even have that cover—DOGE has not been authorized by Congress, which means he may not be protected by executive immunity and could be prosecuted for his actions. This applies to all DOGE staff as well. That's the summary.

whimsicalism 2y ago

what actions? and why is an EV credit bill the appropriate vehicle to do so, rather than say.. the court system?

taylodl 2y ago
What actions? You can't be serious! And courts are for crimes. The crimes Musk is currently committing is at the behest of Trump and, unless we follow the precedent set at Nuremberg, Trump is responsible for those crimes. Even so, the courts can't do anything about it because the legislature is responsible for trying the Chief Executive. Is the EV credit bill the appropriate vehicle to get Musk to reconsider his actions? All I can say is it's a vehicle. I'm not a member of the legislature and I don't play one on TV. It appears Musk was poorly raised and never taught there are consequences to actions, even if you're free to perform the action. As a matter of fact, it seems like a lot of people never learned that important life lesson.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  when did politics become like this.. nuremberg? the nazis killed 6m, i feel like you are living in a parallel reality > never taught there are consequences to actions, even if you're free to perform the action you are not free to perform an action if the government punishes you for performing that action
  - taylodl 2y ago
    Other citizens may punish you for your actions. For example, a large number of people are no longer buying Teslas because of Musk's actions. As far as government creating regulations affecting Musk, well, Musk thumbed his nose to government regulations and showed his ass. What, the wittle baby can't take what he dishes out? How lame!
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  Ok so after all that … there’s nothing criminal about what he’s doing? Is that the summary?
  - taylodl 2y ago
    There's a fine line being drawn here. While what Musk is doing may be illegal, it's at the behest of the President, which typically means the President would be held accountable, not Musk. However, if we apply the legal precedent set at Nuremberg, where following unlawful orders is itself a crime, Musk could still be held responsible. In Musk's case, he might not even have that cover—DOGE has not been authorized by Congress, which means he may not be protected by executive immunity and could be prosecuted for his actions. This applies to all DOGE staff as well. That's the summary.