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There seems to be a bit of worry about Apple possibly forcing Starlink upon devices, as seen in this other discussion: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255

There seems to be a bit of worry about Apple possibly forcing Starlink upon devices, as seen in this other discussion: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255954789?sortBy=rank https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255954789?sortBy=rank

cf100clunk 2y ago
This TikTok video seems to be one of the triggers for the ''panic'' and ''freakout'' I've been hearing about: https://www.tiktok.com/@kochead/video/7466562804363939114 https://www.tiktok.com/@kochead/video/7466562804363939114
sigmoid10 2y ago
It feels like those guys drank too much of Apple's Kool-Aid. The idea that one silicon valley offspring would be more trustworthy with your data than another is simply baffling. Apple might be stricter regarding what third party developers can see inside their walled garden than Google, but they themselves happily collect all your data. If you want privacy, don't buy branded phones (and especially not ones with closed source ecosystems). And if you want advice on the topic, don't listen to people with obvious cognitive dissonance due to them owning the product, like in the linked discussion.
- cf100clunk 2y ago
  That's a fair opinion, but I think the fact that this consumer concern is happening precisely at the time of Musk's activities having such an overtly political significance speaks for itself.
  - sigmoid10 2y ago
    I think the causality here is reversed. People wouldn't give a damn if Musk hadn't turned into such a magnet for negative headlines. And I doubt anyone really knows what he's currently planning to do with his new powers (including himself).
    - cf100clunk 2y ago
      I was suggesting it was simultaneous, actually, and the worry these consumers are describing about not really knowing what he's up to is just revving it all up. I'm simply telling family and friends asking what they should do about all this to turn off auto update and make sure it asks permission to go ahead (always a sensible stance). I give them no advice about psychological, sociological, or political stresses, but I'd love some real info from Apple about what is truly going on.

cf100clunk 2y ago

This TikTok video seems to be one of the triggers for the ''panic'' and ''freakout'' I've been hearing about: https://www.tiktok.com/@kochead/video/7466562804363939114 https://www.tiktok.com/@kochead/video/7466562804363939114

sigmoid10 2y ago

It feels like those guys drank too much of Apple's Kool-Aid. The idea that one silicon valley offspring would be more trustworthy with your data than another is simply baffling. Apple might be stricter regarding what third party developers can see inside their walled garden than Google, but they themselves happily collect all your data. If you want privacy, don't buy branded phones (and especially not ones with closed source ecosystems). And if you want advice on the topic, don't listen to people with obvious cognitive dissonance due to them owning the product, like in the linked discussion.

cf100clunk 2y ago
That's a fair opinion, but I think the fact that this consumer concern is happening precisely at the time of Musk's activities having such an overtly political significance speaks for itself.
- sigmoid10 2y ago
  I think the causality here is reversed. People wouldn't give a damn if Musk hadn't turned into such a magnet for negative headlines. And I doubt anyone really knows what he's currently planning to do with his new powers (including himself).
  - cf100clunk 2y ago
    I was suggesting it was simultaneous, actually, and the worry these consumers are describing about not really knowing what he's up to is just revving it all up. I'm simply telling family and friends asking what they should do about all this to turn off auto update and make sure it asks permission to go ahead (always a sensible stance). I give them no advice about psychological, sociological, or political stresses, but I'd love some real info from Apple about what is truly going on.