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In what way is an exclusion from an EV credit the result of some neutral proceeding of law or prosecution? frankly, i am not interested in a government that pu

In what way is an exclusion from an EV credit the result of some neutral proceeding of law or prosecution? frankly, i am not interested in a government that punishes 'lies' in this way. the government should not be in the business of making people "accountable" for their bad politics. accountability for illegal actions proceeds through the courts. we are not a banana republic, although i increasingly worry

toomuchtodo 2y ago
> In what way is an exclusion from an EV credit the result of some neutral proceeding of law or prosecution? I am unsure why you believe legislation requires due process. Musk and Tesla have no rights to state EV tax credits. States are not obligated to be "fair." They could exclude Musk and his controlled entities from financial support simply because they want to. They could even revert any laws allowing Tesla to sell vehicles without dealers. "State's rights." > frankly, i am not interested in a government that punishes 'lies' in this way. the government should not be in the business of making people "accountable" for their bad politics. accountability for illegal actions proceeds through the courts. Then we are at an impasse, and can only observe or assist the gears turning to reach desired outcomes. > we are not a banana republic, although i increasingly worry We aren't? A private citizen preventing Congress from access to federal property and violating various laws to obtain and control access to a core government value transfer system isn't? The executive branch enabling a "special employee" to "delete" agencies when they have no authority to do so? The FBI turning over records of who prosecuted J6 insurrectionists for retaliation against civil servants for doing their job? Respectfully, we have "crossed the Rubicon" already. I understand belief systems, which are rigid, will likely prevent meeting in the middle on this topic. With that said, I believe facts (like character) always matter. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=elon&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Rubio says El Salvador offers to accept deportees from US of any nationality, including Americans - https://apnews.com/article/migration-rubio-panama-colombia-venezuela-237f06b7d4bdd9ff1396baf9c45a2c0b https://apnews.com/article/migration-rubio-panama-colombia-v... DOGE Employees Ordered to Stop Using Slack While Agency Transitions to Records System That Is Not Subject to FOIA - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42951458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42951458 - Feb 2025 FBI turns over details of 5000 employees who worked on January 6 cases - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42949784 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42949784 - Feb 2025 Congressional Research Service: USAID Under the Trump Administration - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 - Feb 2025
- asacrowflies 2y ago
  Well said and civil. And sourced. Better than I could do. Cheers

toomuchtodo 2y ago

> In what way is an exclusion from an EV credit the result of some neutral proceeding of law or prosecution? I am unsure why you believe legislation requires due process. Musk and Tesla have no rights to state EV tax credits. States are not obligated to be "fair." They could exclude Musk and his controlled entities from financial support simply because they want to. They could even revert any laws allowing Tesla to sell vehicles without dealers. "State's rights." > frankly, i am not interested in a government that punishes 'lies' in this way. the government should not be in the business of making people "accountable" for their bad politics. accountability for illegal actions proceeds through the courts. Then we are at an impasse, and can only observe or assist the gears turning to reach desired outcomes. > we are not a banana republic, although i increasingly worry We aren't? A private citizen preventing Congress from access to federal property and violating various laws to obtain and control access to a core government value transfer system isn't? The executive branch enabling a "special employee" to "delete" agencies when they have no authority to do so? The FBI turning over records of who prosecuted J6 insurrectionists for retaliation against civil servants for doing their job? Respectfully, we have "crossed the Rubicon" already. I understand belief systems, which are rigid, will likely prevent meeting in the middle on this topic. With that said, I believe facts (like character) always matter. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=elon&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Rubio says El Salvador offers to accept deportees from US of any nationality, including Americans - https://apnews.com/article/migration-rubio-panama-colombia-venezuela-237f06b7d4bdd9ff1396baf9c45a2c0b https://apnews.com/article/migration-rubio-panama-colombia-v... DOGE Employees Ordered to Stop Using Slack While Agency Transitions to Records System That Is Not Subject to FOIA - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42951458 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42951458 - Feb 2025 FBI turns over details of 5000 employees who worked on January 6 cases - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42949784 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42949784 - Feb 2025 Congressional Research Service: USAID Under the Trump Administration - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42941591 - Feb 2025

asacrowflies 2y ago
Well said and civil. And sourced. Better than I could do. Cheers