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Do you think the blanket-pardon for J6 was ethically justifiable? To me, a blanket pardon appears very problematic because I firmly believe that the underlying

Do you think the blanket-pardon for J6 was ethically justifiable? To me, a blanket pardon appears very problematic because I firmly believe that the underlying action (violent protest directly aimed at government representatives) was and is still a crime (I think that a group of protestors similarly storming the capitol or white house now would --and should-- not be pardoned either). The whole thing is even more problematic because it basically directly rewards for loyalty to a person over the country/democratic ideals. Personally, I have no doubt that a lot of them were honest, well-meaning protestors that caused little harm-- but definitely not all of them. Commutations done for individual cases would have been much less problematic in my view.

ReptileMan 2y ago
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- myrmidon 2y ago
  > Yes, because the governments in 2020 have shown that rioting, setting building on fire, attacking police departments and declaring shit like CHAZ was totally ok and won't be persecuted. Are you sure that this is not a distorted perception, fueled by media that profit off of outrage? There have been >14000 arrests following the George Floyd protests; I don't think it was ever established that setting public property on fire was fine (legally), not during the last administration and most certainly not now... > But since Trump JD is not trying to put people from that summer in jail - I am totally fine with both group of thugs being free Even if people had not been arrested during the protests (they were), this is still super iffy. This is a bit like saying "since Trump never did anything against Pelosis insider trading, its fine if he engages in it himself"-- in my eyes, thats not "morally cancelling out", thats him failing twice...
  - ReptileMan 2y ago
    The best solution would have been for Biden to pardon everyone non violent (in violence defined something greater that what you would find in a hardcore mosh pit) and leave the rest - but that is long gone. As a person that has set fire once to the building of my country parliament and overthrown the government - honestly it is not such a big deal

ReptileMan 2y ago

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myrmidon 2y ago
> Yes, because the governments in 2020 have shown that rioting, setting building on fire, attacking police departments and declaring shit like CHAZ was totally ok and won't be persecuted. Are you sure that this is not a distorted perception, fueled by media that profit off of outrage? There have been >14000 arrests following the George Floyd protests; I don't think it was ever established that setting public property on fire was fine (legally), not during the last administration and most certainly not now... > But since Trump JD is not trying to put people from that summer in jail - I am totally fine with both group of thugs being free Even if people had not been arrested during the protests (they were), this is still super iffy. This is a bit like saying "since Trump never did anything against Pelosis insider trading, its fine if he engages in it himself"-- in my eyes, thats not "morally cancelling out", thats him failing twice...
- ReptileMan 2y ago
  The best solution would have been for Biden to pardon everyone non violent (in violence defined something greater that what you would find in a hardcore mosh pit) and leave the rest - but that is long gone. As a person that has set fire once to the building of my country parliament and overthrown the government - honestly it is not such a big deal