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"It has become tiring to see how DEI has affected all aspects of academia. Hiring people based on race, awarding grants to work exclusively with members of a pa

"It has become tiring to see how DEI has affected all aspects of academia. Hiring people based on race, awarding grants to work exclusively with members of a particular set of minorities, etc." You mention in another comment diversity in admissions but that is not hiring or grants. Do you have any examples of hiring people based on race in academia?

hashemian 2y ago
This is one: https://x.com/JohnDSailer/status/1883648993974169641 https://x.com/JohnDSailer/status/1883648993974169641 I have friends in faculty positions at well-known universities who were very unhappy about these practices, but could not publicly discuss it fearing repercussion, prior to these events. TBC, I am not supporting any of the things happening. I do think the DEI thing went too far, but what the new admin. is doing can be much worse.
Gabriel54 2y ago
There are not countless examples. Instead of "hiring of people on the basis of race" I may more accurately say "using race as a decisive factor in the consideration of an application resulting in its acceptance or rejection" which also happens to be illegal. From the journalism department at CU [1]: > Our commitment, should we be successful with this application, is to hire someone from the BIPOC community From the geography department at CU [1]: > Our aim is specifically to hire a Black, Indigenous, or Latinx faculty member From ethnic studies at UC [1]: > We have an urgent and qualified need for BIPOC femme/women of color faculty in an Africana Studies focus who will contribute to the social science division thematic cluster hire in racism and racial inequality. From psychology dept. at U Washington [2]: > I advise deleting the statement below as it shows that URM [underrepresented minority] applications were singled out and evaluated differently than non-URM applications (which is not allowed as [redacted] noted) > At a faculty meeting, someone whose name is redacted “informed faculty that the Hiring Committee had three outstanding candidates and so they used DEI to distinguish and select a first offer" [1] https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-dei-conquered-the-university-of-colorado-boulder-discrimination-hiring-professors-0c306a9e?st=HnnsrN&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-dei-conquered-the-university... [2] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity-equity/2023/11/03/u-washington-faculty-search-weighed-race https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity...

hashemian 2y ago

This is one: https://x.com/JohnDSailer/status/1883648993974169641 https://x.com/JohnDSailer/status/1883648993974169641 I have friends in faculty positions at well-known universities who were very unhappy about these practices, but could not publicly discuss it fearing repercussion, prior to these events. TBC, I am not supporting any of the things happening. I do think the DEI thing went too far, but what the new admin. is doing can be much worse.

Gabriel54 2y ago

There are not countless examples. Instead of "hiring of people on the basis of race" I may more accurately say "using race as a decisive factor in the consideration of an application resulting in its acceptance or rejection" which also happens to be illegal. From the journalism department at CU [1]: > Our commitment, should we be successful with this application, is to hire someone from the BIPOC community From the geography department at CU [1]: > Our aim is specifically to hire a Black, Indigenous, or Latinx faculty member From ethnic studies at UC [1]: > We have an urgent and qualified need for BIPOC femme/women of color faculty in an Africana Studies focus who will contribute to the social science division thematic cluster hire in racism and racial inequality. From psychology dept. at U Washington [2]: > I advise deleting the statement below as it shows that URM [underrepresented minority] applications were singled out and evaluated differently than non-URM applications (which is not allowed as [redacted] noted) > At a faculty meeting, someone whose name is redacted “informed faculty that the Hiring Committee had three outstanding candidates and so they used DEI to distinguish and select a first offer" [1] https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-dei-conquered-the-university-of-colorado-boulder-discrimination-hiring-professors-0c306a9e?st=HnnsrN&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-dei-conquered-the-university... [2] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity-equity/2023/11/03/u-washington-faculty-search-weighed-race https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity...