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> the purity spiral on the left encompasses the entire party. The party that chose Biden and Harris is in a purity spiral? They’re not exactly marxists… And o

> the purity spiral on the left encompasses the entire party. The party that chose Biden and Harris is in a purity spiral? They’re not exactly marxists… And on the right it’s not the case? As soon as anyone disagrees with Trump they get steamrolled and labeled a traitor

scarab92 2y ago
I do think purity spirals exist on the right, but they are not as all emcompasssing as on the left. You can be shunned from MAGA, while remaining republican. You can be shunned from the religious right, while remaining republican. There is significantly more ideological diversity within the republican party than within the democratic party, and the result is democrats switching to republican at a rate 4 times higher than the republicans switch to democrats.
- namdnay 2y ago
  > You can be shunned from MAGA, while remaining republican. Can you really? Who is that?
  - scarab92 2y ago
    Very much so. This poll is a little old, but in 2023 only 38% of republicans identify as MAGA republicans https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vanderbilt-unity-poll-reveals-52-of-maga-republicans-believe-vladimir-putin-is-a-better-president-than-joe-biden/ https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vande... And here's a list of prominent republicans who are not MAGA republicans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose...
    - namdnay 2y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose... So ... 4 senators and 2 representatives are not MAGA. Everyone else has had to swear fealty to Trump or leave. And you say that's diversity of opinion?
      - scarab92 2y ago
        You misunderstood what you read. The list is not an exhaustive list of non-MAGA republicans, it is a list of non-MAGA republicans who publically opposed Trump's election even after he won the primary. Non-MAGA republicans overall are about half the republican party.

scarab92 2y ago

I do think purity spirals exist on the right, but they are not as all emcompasssing as on the left. You can be shunned from MAGA, while remaining republican. You can be shunned from the religious right, while remaining republican. There is significantly more ideological diversity within the republican party than within the democratic party, and the result is democrats switching to republican at a rate 4 times higher than the republicans switch to democrats.

namdnay 2y ago
> You can be shunned from MAGA, while remaining republican. Can you really? Who is that?
- scarab92 2y ago
  Very much so. This poll is a little old, but in 2023 only 38% of republicans identify as MAGA republicans https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vanderbilt-unity-poll-reveals-52-of-maga-republicans-believe-vladimir-putin-is-a-better-president-than-joe-biden/ https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vande... And here's a list of prominent republicans who are not MAGA republicans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose...
  - namdnay 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_oppose... So ... 4 senators and 2 representatives are not MAGA. Everyone else has had to swear fealty to Trump or leave. And you say that's diversity of opinion?
    - scarab92 2y ago
      You misunderstood what you read. The list is not an exhaustive list of non-MAGA republicans, it is a list of non-MAGA republicans who publically opposed Trump's election even after he won the primary. Non-MAGA republicans overall are about half the republican party.