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Hey look its the goal posts whizzing by...

by hobs 2y ago

intended 2y ago
Right!! It goes from "its the lefts fault, and maybe you shouldnt call people Nazi." To "It works for Trump!" to "trump connects to people. the left doesnt" Lol. This is like when you are in an abusive relationship, and you are always wrong, and theres no real way to explain why you are always wrong - until you accept that one side is meant to be the loser in an abusive realtion.
- scarab92 2y ago
  A more constructive take away, would be for the left to learn from and adopt some of what makes Trump successful. If your primary personality is perceived as immature, it's going to cost you votes. If you can connect with people on multiple levels, you can broaden your appeal by appeal to people with preferences for different levels of maturity.
  - hobs 2y ago
    The only real takeaway is the his base will be glad to Gish gallop their post hoc rationalizations for supporting him no matter what.
  - intended 2y ago
    >If your primary personality is perceived Yes thats the key word. Control perception, and you can win. Which is what the repubs do. They can make someone who says heinous things, sound presidential. The dems need to create that. Its cheaper, its more efficient, and it works. I'd love for someone to come up with a workable alternative, but until they figure that technique out, the dems should figure out how to emulate what is working. Within their constraints of course. They are still a big tent party, so they cant do the same things as trump.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      > They can make someone who says heinous things, sound presidential. They do that by lying and gaslighting their voters. Fox News will call January 6 a "day of peace" and refuse to show the footage from that day of the insurrection, to the point where when Republican voters are shown footage of insurrectionists beating cops with American flags and crushing them in doors, they are surprised that's what actually happened. That's the degree of information control that's necessary to make Trump sounds presidential, and we shouldn't wish our own representatives to gaslight and lie to us like that.
      - intended 2y ago
        If wishes were horses. I don’t wish this anywhere in the world. But until the righteous find a solution to this tactic, people need to emulate it, if only to bring their political battle to parity. Restraint IS a value, and it might well be yours. But the value needs someone to create a path for it to be viable and competitive. Otherwise your choice is simply between restraint and electoral irrelevance, or between combat and a chance to get some votes.

Hey look its the goal posts whizzing by...

by hobs 2y ago

Hey look its the goal posts whizzing by...

Right!! It goes from "its the lefts fault, and maybe you shouldnt call people Nazi." To "It works for Trump!" to "trump connects to people. the left doesnt" Lol. This is like when you are in an abusive relationship, and you are always wrong, and theres no real way to explain why you are always wrong - until you accept that one side is meant to be the loser in an abusive realtion.

scarab92 2y ago
A more constructive take away, would be for the left to learn from and adopt some of what makes Trump successful. If your primary personality is perceived as immature, it's going to cost you votes. If you can connect with people on multiple levels, you can broaden your appeal by appeal to people with preferences for different levels of maturity.
- hobs 2y ago
  The only real takeaway is the his base will be glad to Gish gallop their post hoc rationalizations for supporting him no matter what.
- intended 2y ago
  >If your primary personality is perceived Yes thats the key word. Control perception, and you can win. Which is what the repubs do. They can make someone who says heinous things, sound presidential. The dems need to create that. Its cheaper, its more efficient, and it works. I'd love for someone to come up with a workable alternative, but until they figure that technique out, the dems should figure out how to emulate what is working. Within their constraints of course. They are still a big tent party, so they cant do the same things as trump.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    > They can make someone who says heinous things, sound presidential. They do that by lying and gaslighting their voters. Fox News will call January 6 a "day of peace" and refuse to show the footage from that day of the insurrection, to the point where when Republican voters are shown footage of insurrectionists beating cops with American flags and crushing them in doors, they are surprised that's what actually happened. That's the degree of information control that's necessary to make Trump sounds presidential, and we shouldn't wish our own representatives to gaslight and lie to us like that.
    - intended 2y ago
      If wishes were horses. I don’t wish this anywhere in the world. But until the righteous find a solution to this tactic, people need to emulate it, if only to bring their political battle to parity. Restraint IS a value, and it might well be yours. But the value needs someone to create a path for it to be viable and competitive. Otherwise your choice is simply between restraint and electoral irrelevance, or between combat and a chance to get some votes.