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The left need to accept that they lost the election, that Trump won the presidency and the Republicans won control of congress. As much as you personally disag
by scarab92 2y ago
The left need to accept that they lost the election, that Trump won the presidency and the Republicans won control of congress.
As much as you personally disagree with these decisions, they are in line with the broad policy positions Trump et al communicated prior to the election, and can be considered the will of the people.
Challenging the mandate the public gave them, by hyperventilating over minor procedural hiccups that will inevitably be resolved by congress in favour of Trump, comes across to voters as undemocratic.
- realusername 2y agoSo first the US isn't a monarchy last time I checked, Trump doesn't have the mandate to do what he's doing now, no matter how much you agree with his decisions or not. And secondly no, Trump also publicly lied about his positions by saying he had nothing to do with Project 2025. But it doesn't matter if he did say the truth anyways, saying that you'll make a coup doesn't make the coup okay.
- meheleventyone 2y ago> The left need to accept that they lost the election, that Trump won the presidency and the Republicans won control of congress. Shouldn't they then use Congress as intended rather than what they're doing now which bypasses it? As a bystander in another country your line of argument is mind-boggling. You don't just throw out the constitution and way the government works because one guy won an election one time. But that seems to be what a lot of people are suggesting, that because Trump won the election whatever he does is democratic and therefore okay.
- lawn 2y agoThe same people typically argue that whatever Trump is right anyway. For example when he lost the last election people rallied behind is made-up election fraud claims.
- chongli 2y agoShouldn't they then use Congress as intended rather than what they're doing now which bypasses it? They can’t because of the filibuster [1]. They cannot bypass the filibuster without a 3/5 majority which they do not have. Thus any bill which the Democrats oppose will be blocked by filibuster in the Senate. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_State...
- theossuary 2y agoThey could easily remove the filibuster if they so choosed.
- chongli 2y agoYes, they could remove the filibuster. But then if the Democrats retake the Senate in the midterm elections they will benefit from the removed filibuster and be able to undo everything the Republicans did in the first place. The filibuster remaining in place is a good thing because it encourages negotiations and compromise instead of a seesaw battle.
- theossuary 2y agoI agree the filibuster is a good thing. But you can't decide to keep it and then use it as a reason to bypass congress.
- verzali 2y ago> But then if the Democrats retake the Senate in the midterm elections they will benefit from the removed filibuster and be able to undo everything the Republicans did in the first place. That's called democracy.
- chongli 2y agoYes, so isn't that a satisfactory answer for why the Republicans won't remove the filibuster? It's ultimately self-defeating.
- __loam 2y agoBy mandate do you mean the 3 vote majority in the house?