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I will sign back up for a paid service when funding Russian search engine Yandex is dropped. Many like to forget there is a war.
by s_dev 2y ago
I will sign back up for a paid service when funding Russian search engine Yandex is dropped. Many like to forget there is a war.
- ranguna 2y agoSources?
- cuu508 2y agohttps://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
- mbix77 2y agoCalling the invasion of Ukraine and the killing of hundreds of thousands people, targeting kindergartens, hospitals, normal civilians, destabilizing an entire continent --> "politics". "any search source we consider using goes through rigorous evaluation process that considers: result quality, API availability, economic viability, result latency, legal terms, privacy terms, and technical feasibility. the moment 'politics' is a part of factors being considered for search results, is the moment I stop working on a search engine."
- Novosell 2y agoWhat else would you call it?
- mbix77 2y agoWar, invasion, terrorism,... take your pick.
- Novosell 2y agoAre you under the belief that the US, in which bing, kagi and google primarily operate, has never done anything repugnant? Seems like ignoring that while cutting ties with Yandex because of Russia is a very political move.
- mbix77 2y agoYes, you're completely correct. Kagi seems to have a very good product, it would become better if it would become a "good" company. I do everything to not use any big-tech software and services. In search it seems the options are limited.
- Novosell 2y agoAye, the search situation is rather dire. I also try to distance myself from big-tech as much as possible, but it is rather difficult if you still wanna live a digital life. I don't feel like going full Richard Stallman, having to entirely avoid web browsers. Just gotta cut your losses at certain points and accept less-than-perfect-but-still-better solutions.
- thinkingtoilet 2y agoClassic whataboustism. If you don't want to use something because of the US's geo-political actions, go for it.
- Novosell 2y ago>If you don't want to use something because of the US's geo-political actions, go for it. Thanks for giving me permission, much appreciated. I needed that. Responding "classic whataboutism" isn't very productive, just kills the conversation and makes it impossible to point out potential hypocrisy. Classic reddit comment.
- geye1234 2y ago"War is politics with bloodshed. Politics is war without bloodshed." -- Clausewitz (I think?)
- mbix77 2y agoComes from Mao, not surprisingly.
- id00 2y agoThat's definitely an interesting hill to die on. I can say as a paid Kagi user and regular donator to ВСУ
- s_dev 2y agoI'm not dying on any hill. I will sign back up for a €20 euro a month niche search engine when either the war ends or Kagi remove Yandex from their funding list.
- vindex10 2y agoIt's ЗСУ (Збройні Сили України) in Ukrainian https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%96_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D0%B8 https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9...
- gspr 2y agoExactly. I've used the free tier a bit. I'd say it's never worse than Google, and sometimes significantly better. I'll happily pay a bit for this. But no way am I paying a single cent for anything where a significant part of what makes it work is Russian. Glory and liberty for Ukraine!
- Gareth321 2y agoWe all have our red lines to draw. I personally use Kagi because it doesn't censor results from politically contentious sources like Yandex. Quite the opposite.
- cuu508 2y agoThe problem, for me, is not censoring/not censoring sources like Yandex. The problem is them sharing profit with Yandex.
- tokai 2y agoAh I was just looking into trying a subscription. Can't see how supporting genocide financially is impartiality.
- piyuv 2y agoDo you use any American tech companies? There’s another war, FYI