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It's easy to dismiss eccentric people as conmen. But you have to consider, he has been at least partially instrumental in at least 2 impossible companies: elect

It's easy to dismiss eccentric people as conmen. But you have to consider, he has been at least partially instrumental in at least 2 impossible companies: electric cars and rockets. Regardless of what you think of his intellectual capacity, he has a proven track record of organizing people to produce exceptional outcomes ! An inevitable characteristic of his algorithm is chaos: delete as many constraints and parts as possible. When things break, re-add those necessary parts.

squigz 2y ago
> An inevitable characteristic of his algorithm is chaos: delete as many constraints and parts as possible. When things break, re-add those necessary parts. This might work sometimes for companies (surprisingly, often it doesn't) - it has far more significant and wide-reaching consequences when you're doing it to an entire country and its institutions, particularly one as influential as America.
callc 2y ago
> Regardless of what you think of his intellectual capacity, he has a proven track record of organizing people to produce exceptional outcomes ! And? Getting people whipped up into a frenzy through fear, us vs them mentality, narcissism, to do good work is toxic. Musk is toxic. We should stop elevating leaders as extra-ordinarily capable. Especially leaders who employ a negative leadership style instead of one founded on empathy, trust, respect, and importance of the group over leader.
- newsreaderguy 2y ago
  ask yourself who is doing the whipping into frenzy the media + bureaucratic class + democrat leaders who all have a vested interest in these un-audited institutions remaining in the shadows, or the people doing exactly what half the country asked them to do: clean up the government in an unprecedented way
  - nmz 2y ago
    There's no media here, just people talking about the jobs they lost and the jobs they're going to lose, everyone can see it. For better or worse, there is no media, only social media mobs.
    - l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
      Maybe if DEI is in your job title its not a real job. I would think both sides of the political spectrum agree that the government spends money frivolously; so I am confused on why people are so upset. Maybe they aren't actually upset and all we are hearing in any form of media are government leeches crying about the end to their gravy train.
      - nmz 2y ago
        Apparently neither is accountant, auditor, federal employee, journalist, judge, reporter, lawmaker, lawman, weatherman, scientist, congressman, etc. And yes, everyone agrees that there is waste on government, however, what is being labeled as waste is medicare and SNAP and foreign aid. Why are people upset? there's 200,000 people getting laid off and its only february, of course people are upset, I very much doubt 200k employees are DEI hires. > The layoffs include between 1,200 and 2,000 employees at the Department of Energy (DOE), including staff from the nuclear security administration and the loans office, two sources familiar with the decision told Reuters. https://www.newsweek.com/federal-layoffs-live-thousands-probationary-staff-fired-7-agencies-including-va-education-2031547 https://www.newsweek.com/federal-layoffs-live-thousands-prob... Let's not forget about FAA, which immediately had 2 crashes after it was gutted. > The aviation security committee, which was mandated by Congress after the 1988 PanAm 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, will technically continue to exist but it won’t have any members to carry out the work of examining safety issues at airlines and airports. Before Tuesday, the group included representatives of all the key groups in the industry — including the airlines and major unions — as well as members of a group associated with the victims of the PanAm 103 bombing. The vast majority of the group’s recommendations were adopted over the years. https://apnews.com/article/coast-guard-homeland-security-priorities-committees-trump-tsa-d3e4398c8871ada8d0590859442e092c https://apnews.com/article/coast-guard-homeland-security-pri...
vharuck 2y ago
"You can't be loony and rich. You've got to be eccentric if you're rich. - Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man
nmz 2y ago
Electric cars are a con job though, impressive, but still a con.
- l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
  Electric cars have nothing to do with the conservation of the environment, but are are a way for rich people virtue signal in an effort to offload the guilt of their "carbon footprint" to another country that mines the Cobalt and Lithium. Pollution for thee not for me.

squigz 2y ago

> An inevitable characteristic of his algorithm is chaos: delete as many constraints and parts as possible. When things break, re-add those necessary parts. This might work sometimes for companies (surprisingly, often it doesn't) - it has far more significant and wide-reaching consequences when you're doing it to an entire country and its institutions, particularly one as influential as America.

callc 2y ago

> Regardless of what you think of his intellectual capacity, he has a proven track record of organizing people to produce exceptional outcomes ! And? Getting people whipped up into a frenzy through fear, us vs them mentality, narcissism, to do good work is toxic. Musk is toxic. We should stop elevating leaders as extra-ordinarily capable. Especially leaders who employ a negative leadership style instead of one founded on empathy, trust, respect, and importance of the group over leader.

newsreaderguy 2y ago
ask yourself who is doing the whipping into frenzy the media + bureaucratic class + democrat leaders who all have a vested interest in these un-audited institutions remaining in the shadows, or the people doing exactly what half the country asked them to do: clean up the government in an unprecedented way
- nmz 2y ago
  There's no media here, just people talking about the jobs they lost and the jobs they're going to lose, everyone can see it. For better or worse, there is no media, only social media mobs.
  - l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
    Maybe if DEI is in your job title its not a real job. I would think both sides of the political spectrum agree that the government spends money frivolously; so I am confused on why people are so upset. Maybe they aren't actually upset and all we are hearing in any form of media are government leeches crying about the end to their gravy train.
    - nmz 2y ago
      Apparently neither is accountant, auditor, federal employee, journalist, judge, reporter, lawmaker, lawman, weatherman, scientist, congressman, etc. And yes, everyone agrees that there is waste on government, however, what is being labeled as waste is medicare and SNAP and foreign aid. Why are people upset? there's 200,000 people getting laid off and its only february, of course people are upset, I very much doubt 200k employees are DEI hires. > The layoffs include between 1,200 and 2,000 employees at the Department of Energy (DOE), including staff from the nuclear security administration and the loans office, two sources familiar with the decision told Reuters. https://www.newsweek.com/federal-layoffs-live-thousands-probationary-staff-fired-7-agencies-including-va-education-2031547 https://www.newsweek.com/federal-layoffs-live-thousands-prob... Let's not forget about FAA, which immediately had 2 crashes after it was gutted. > The aviation security committee, which was mandated by Congress after the 1988 PanAm 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, will technically continue to exist but it won’t have any members to carry out the work of examining safety issues at airlines and airports. Before Tuesday, the group included representatives of all the key groups in the industry — including the airlines and major unions — as well as members of a group associated with the victims of the PanAm 103 bombing. The vast majority of the group’s recommendations were adopted over the years. https://apnews.com/article/coast-guard-homeland-security-priorities-committees-trump-tsa-d3e4398c8871ada8d0590859442e092c https://apnews.com/article/coast-guard-homeland-security-pri...

vharuck 2y ago

"You can't be loony and rich. You've got to be eccentric if you're rich. - Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man

nmz 2y ago

Electric cars are a con job though, impressive, but still a con.

l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
Electric cars have nothing to do with the conservation of the environment, but are are a way for rich people virtue signal in an effort to offload the guilt of their "carbon footprint" to another country that mines the Cobalt and Lithium. Pollution for thee not for me.