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Is this also a lie? From psychology department at University of Washington [1]: > I advise deleting the statement below as it shows that URM [underrepresented

Is this also a lie? From psychology department at University of Washington [1]: > I advise deleting the statement below as it shows that URM [underrepresented minority] applications were singled out and evaluated differently than non-URM applications (which is not allowed as [redacted] noted) > At a faculty meeting, someone whose name is redacted “informed faculty that the Hiring Committee had three outstanding candidates and so they used DEI to distinguish and select a first offer" [1] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity-equity/2023/11/03/u-washington-faculty-search-weighed-race https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity...

tills13 2y ago
Nobody is saying it's not happening but the notion that it's systemic -- as the opposite is -- is categorically a lie and, again, as you've been told a few times in this thread, DEI's goal is to prevent even this scenario from happening as its intended goal is to foster merit-only hiring.
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- Gabriel54 2y ago
  My most charitable reading of your comment is that the DEI policies were simply grossly misunderstood by the department in this case. Therefore, it would seem that an unintended consequence of DEI policies has been to foster the scenarios it was designed to prevent.
- Jensson 2y ago
  > DEI's goal is to prevent even this scenario from happening as its intended goal is to foster merit-only hiring. That was 20 years ago, today merit only hiring is called evil by the same people, there is a reason people started to get really against what they do lately.
  - chasing 2y ago
    (Psst: There's no such thing as purely merit-based hiring. And DEI's mostly just about just making sure perfectly capable individuals aren't passed over or alienated because they're not white men. Because that's what's been going on for most of the past -- checks notes -- 500 years of American history. Pass it on.)

tills13 2y ago

Nobody is saying it's not happening but the notion that it's systemic -- as the opposite is -- is categorically a lie and, again, as you've been told a few times in this thread, DEI's goal is to prevent even this scenario from happening as its intended goal is to foster merit-only hiring.

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Gabriel54 2y ago
My most charitable reading of your comment is that the DEI policies were simply grossly misunderstood by the department in this case. Therefore, it would seem that an unintended consequence of DEI policies has been to foster the scenarios it was designed to prevent.
Jensson 2y ago
> DEI's goal is to prevent even this scenario from happening as its intended goal is to foster merit-only hiring. That was 20 years ago, today merit only hiring is called evil by the same people, there is a reason people started to get really against what they do lately.
- chasing 2y ago
  (Psst: There's no such thing as purely merit-based hiring. And DEI's mostly just about just making sure perfectly capable individuals aren't passed over or alienated because they're not white men. Because that's what's been going on for most of the past -- checks notes -- 500 years of American history. Pass it on.)