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The key piece of information is missing though - at what price and energy cost. For the first sample it sounds exciting, but... they'll have to compete with the
by viraptor 2y ago
The key piece of information is missing though - at what price and energy cost. For the first sample it sounds exciting, but... they'll have to compete with the cost of smuggling Nvidia into the country.
- thorncorona 2y agoIt doesn't matter. Matters of national security don't get killed for economic reasons.
- threatripper 2y agoIt always matters to some degree but you can spend much much more to get an edge for national security. 10x maybe 100x compared to the free market but not infinite.
- viraptor 2y agoIt wouldn't get killed, but it may end up like Baikal, Elbrus and others - kept around just in case, but not really used instead of bought/smuggled chips.
- threatripper 2y agoEven if price and energy is 10x it will not slow down AI development much once the Chinese government starts pouring in big money.
- DSingularity 2y agoAgree on price but what you are suggesting on energy is likely not true. More energy is likely more power (if you decide that the performance matters). More power means you cant network enough of these chips together at the scales needed for training. And that means they havent really solved the problem (although likely they are progressing nicely towards the solution).
- threatripper 2y agoHere they talk about the solutions developed in China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI Basically they made training much more efficient and developed a better and cheaper product. They passed the stage of "AI in China is basically impossible" to "It's just a matter of time and money until they take the lead".
- MangoCoffee 2y agoChina has already dumped a lot of money into its semiconductor industry. Can China continue with its current economic decline?
- bgnn 2y agoWith artificially high Nvidia GPU costs it could very well be feasible.