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Another fun thing from that book is a fantasy on how things will be better because you can't revert things. It's essentially digital feudalism combined with pop

Another fun thing from that book is a fantasy on how things will be better because you can't revert things. It's essentially digital feudalism combined with populism. How could that possibly go wrong...

mullingitover 2y ago
xkcd summed up why these ideas are dumb in two panels[1] a really long time ago. Just replace 'encrypted laptop' with 'the private key that controls your whole life.' [2] https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/
- kridsdale3 2y ago
  This is one of those ones I have the index essentially mapped to the image in my brain already, no need to click.
- ta1243 2y ago
  > a really long time ago. 2009. Why do I think that Spiderman has just schooled me on my age.
- AlchemistCamp 2y ago
  And yet, the brute with the $5 wrench still hasn't gotten Satoshi's bitcoins. There's a lot to be said for pseudonyminity.
stephen_g 2y ago
I couldn't believe it a few years ago when people were talking about NFTs as the 'future' of keeping track of property ownership for everything. Like, somebody stole a cryptographic key, now they can 'prove' they now own my house and I can't (code is law, right?). Or a relative died and now their crypto-currency keys are permanently inaccessible - now all their money is lost forever and nobody can inherit it, even with court order etc.! That's just not the world most people want to live in...
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago
  Code is not law. Law is law. Very few people argue that code is law and it has become an anti-blockchain talking point. Multi signature wallets exist.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    > Multi signature wallets exist. Well... with a traditional bank, everyone knows that in a pinch you can just show up at any branch of your bank, present a government issued ID card and get your money. That doesn't need an user manual or any technical knowledge. Setting up multi-sig wallets and actually working disaster protection however? That needs a looot of knowledge.
    - egberts1 2y ago
      Ummmm, more like MULTI-WALLET, because ... anti-tracking or tracking, depending on your authoritarian stance.
  - kentm 2y ago
    > Code is not law. Law is law. Very few people argue that code is law and it has become an anti-blockchain talking point. I made this exact argument in discussions with "blockchain" proponents, in discussions of why "code as law" was not good, and got near-universal, vehement disagreement. I suspect that you underestimate how many people argue it.

mullingitover 2y ago

xkcd summed up why these ideas are dumb in two panels[1] a really long time ago. Just replace 'encrypted laptop' with 'the private key that controls your whole life.' [2] https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/

kridsdale3 2y ago
This is one of those ones I have the index essentially mapped to the image in my brain already, no need to click.
ta1243 2y ago
> a really long time ago. 2009. Why do I think that Spiderman has just schooled me on my age.
AlchemistCamp 2y ago
And yet, the brute with the $5 wrench still hasn't gotten Satoshi's bitcoins. There's a lot to be said for pseudonyminity.

stephen_g 2y ago

I couldn't believe it a few years ago when people were talking about NFTs as the 'future' of keeping track of property ownership for everything. Like, somebody stole a cryptographic key, now they can 'prove' they now own my house and I can't (code is law, right?). Or a relative died and now their crypto-currency keys are permanently inaccessible - now all their money is lost forever and nobody can inherit it, even with court order etc.! That's just not the world most people want to live in...

zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago
Code is not law. Law is law. Very few people argue that code is law and it has become an anti-blockchain talking point. Multi signature wallets exist.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  > Multi signature wallets exist. Well... with a traditional bank, everyone knows that in a pinch you can just show up at any branch of your bank, present a government issued ID card and get your money. That doesn't need an user manual or any technical knowledge. Setting up multi-sig wallets and actually working disaster protection however? That needs a looot of knowledge.
  - egberts1 2y ago
    Ummmm, more like MULTI-WALLET, because ... anti-tracking or tracking, depending on your authoritarian stance.
- kentm 2y ago
  > Code is not law. Law is law. Very few people argue that code is law and it has become an anti-blockchain talking point. I made this exact argument in discussions with "blockchain" proponents, in discussions of why "code as law" was not good, and got near-universal, vehement disagreement. I suspect that you underestimate how many people argue it.