> That said, you’re contradicting yourself: am I saying my country’s system is impervious to abuse, or am I admitting that it is not? That's not me contradicti

> That said, you’re contradicting yourself: am I saying my country’s system is impervious to abuse, or am I admitting that it is not? That's not me contradicting myself, it's literally quoting you contradicting yourself. Because you've made both of those arguments. At this point, you seem to have backed off basically all of your claims about your system actually being better, leaving me with the question of what point you're trying to make at all. > not sure if that’s accurate but it’s a scary number! Boy, you sound like you'd be a very educated voter, LOL. I Googled "scandanavian id fraud rate" and got 36% for Finland and 45% for Sweden out of one of the top results. So what exactly are you on about?