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Can you give specific examples to back up your comments about Musk? I am quite gullible otherwise.

throwawaymaroon 2y ago
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einrealist 2y ago
- He claimed the US funded bio-weapons when they found payments for gain of function research. - Calling payments to non-profit organizations fraudulent on a whim. - The sweeping condemnation of what USAID was doing. - His call for a blanket drop of regulations. Either he knows better or he is totally lost in his sauce. Hard to say what's worse for where he is right now. I believe, he does not care. He only cares about his conception of the world and how AI and Mars are more important than those tiny tiny human problems. Society has to serve him and his god complex. He was told to find his subsidies and tax cuts by himself. That's what he is doing.
- justanotheratom 2y ago
  Evidence is being presented in real-time on X for each of the things you mentioned. Suggest you do some homework instead of gleaning headlines from old media, who btw, was getting money from USAID - the latest series of evidence coming out on X today. You really need to take a hard look at who is gullible here.
  - yibg 2y ago
    Can you point me to some of the evidence being presented? I know elon's been posting claims of fraud and abuse, but I'm only seen his claims, without any evidence.
    - justanotheratom 2y ago
      way too many to list: Govt money going to NYTimes, AP, Reuters, Politico: https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887191056074350690 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887191056074350690 https://x.com/Austen/status/1887179699874304210 https://x.com/Austen/status/1887179699874304210 https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1887179349440290883 https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1887179349440290883 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887184877197410455 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887184877197410455 https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1887147866688213254 https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1887147866688213254 This guy has been providing evidence for a decade: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber Long list of questionable funding by USAID: https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1887151291895267553 https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1887151291895267553 ...
      - yibg 2y ago
        Thanks for the info, I'll read into it more. EDIT to make my current position clear, I do think there is probably waste in various government agencies. My objection with the current approach is mainly 2 folds: 1. The lack of transparency and accountability 2. Some of the statements from the administration that are false or misleading. e.g. the 50 million on condoms. The 2 combined makes it difficult to have trust on what's happening.
      - einrealist 2y ago
        There is ZERO context in those Tweets. Only showing a line item, with a dense description is NOT evidence for fraud. Its like if I were looking at your bank transactions and assuming the worst. Don't get me wrong. There is certainly fraud and overpayment happening in government operations. But just looking at receipts is not the smoking gun. If anyone suspects fraud, there are a processes. Inspectors Generals are (were) one way to have those payments investigated, DOJ and FBI would be another step. The IGs were fired last week. I wonder why... Also, this "Ian Miles Cheong" guy is literally a Kremlin operative - really someone worth blocking. So that's important to know about his motivations to sow doubt in US Democracy.
        einrealist 2y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/business/trump-politico-usaid-spending-conspiracy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/business/trump-politico-u...
    - l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
      https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04...
  - sirbutters 2y ago
    Bro gets his news from X. hahahahaha. Adorable.
    - justanotheratom 2y ago
      where do you get your "curated" news sir?
  - deleted 2y ago
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- l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
  >- He claimed the US funded bio-weapons when they found payments for gain of function research. This is factual though. The previous NIH director Dr. Hugh Auchincloss and current deputy director Dr. Lawrence Tabak agree that the definition of "gain of function" as was listed on the NIH website applies to engineering a biological agent to infect something it normally wouldnt be able to. That coupled with the fact that Dr.Daszak submitted the Year 5 Annual Progress Report Nearly Two Years Late. Said report had the experiment with infected transgenic mice with four different coronaviruses, three of which were chimera or recombinant viruses with different spike proteins. When confronted in the deposition Daszak said that the reporting system was inaccessible. So they deposed the IT stack of the reporting system, and they showed logs that it was accessible and actually logged into several times during the 2 year period that the report was late. This is pretty strong circumstantial evidence that they were attempting to hide or delay the experiments from being discovered by the grant review process at the end of the year. The report is pretty damning. https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04...

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- He claimed the US funded bio-weapons when they found payments for gain of function research. - Calling payments to non-profit organizations fraudulent on a whim. - The sweeping condemnation of what USAID was doing. - His call for a blanket drop of regulations. Either he knows better or he is totally lost in his sauce. Hard to say what's worse for where he is right now. I believe, he does not care. He only cares about his conception of the world and how AI and Mars are more important than those tiny tiny human problems. Society has to serve him and his god complex. He was told to find his subsidies and tax cuts by himself. That's what he is doing.

justanotheratom 2y ago
Evidence is being presented in real-time on X for each of the things you mentioned. Suggest you do some homework instead of gleaning headlines from old media, who btw, was getting money from USAID - the latest series of evidence coming out on X today. You really need to take a hard look at who is gullible here.
- yibg 2y ago
  Can you point me to some of the evidence being presented? I know elon's been posting claims of fraud and abuse, but I'm only seen his claims, without any evidence.
  - justanotheratom 2y ago
    way too many to list: Govt money going to NYTimes, AP, Reuters, Politico: https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887191056074350690 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887191056074350690 https://x.com/Austen/status/1887179699874304210 https://x.com/Austen/status/1887179699874304210 https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1887179349440290883 https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1887179349440290883 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887184877197410455 https://x.com/stillgray/status/1887184877197410455 https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1887147866688213254 https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1887147866688213254 This guy has been providing evidence for a decade: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber Long list of questionable funding by USAID: https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1887151291895267553 https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1887151291895267553 ...
    - yibg 2y ago
      Thanks for the info, I'll read into it more. EDIT to make my current position clear, I do think there is probably waste in various government agencies. My objection with the current approach is mainly 2 folds: 1. The lack of transparency and accountability 2. Some of the statements from the administration that are false or misleading. e.g. the 50 million on condoms. The 2 combined makes it difficult to have trust on what's happening.
    - einrealist 2y ago
      There is ZERO context in those Tweets. Only showing a line item, with a dense description is NOT evidence for fraud. Its like if I were looking at your bank transactions and assuming the worst. Don't get me wrong. There is certainly fraud and overpayment happening in government operations. But just looking at receipts is not the smoking gun. If anyone suspects fraud, there are a processes. Inspectors Generals are (were) one way to have those payments investigated, DOJ and FBI would be another step. The IGs were fired last week. I wonder why... Also, this "Ian Miles Cheong" guy is literally a Kremlin operative - really someone worth blocking. So that's important to know about his motivations to sow doubt in US Democracy.
      - einrealist 2y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/business/trump-politico-usaid-spending-conspiracy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/business/trump-politico-u...
  - l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04...
- sirbutters 2y ago
  Bro gets his news from X. hahahahaha. Adorable.
  - justanotheratom 2y ago
    where do you get your "curated" news sir?
- deleted 2y ago
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l0t0b0r0s 2y ago
>- He claimed the US funded bio-weapons when they found payments for gain of function research. This is factual though. The previous NIH director Dr. Hugh Auchincloss and current deputy director Dr. Lawrence Tabak agree that the definition of "gain of function" as was listed on the NIH website applies to engineering a biological agent to infect something it normally wouldnt be able to. That coupled with the fact that Dr.Daszak submitted the Year 5 Annual Progress Report Nearly Two Years Late. Said report had the experiment with infected transgenic mice with four different coronaviruses, three of which were chimera or recombinant viruses with different spike proteins. When confronted in the deposition Daszak said that the reporting system was inaccessible. So they deposed the IT stack of the reporting system, and they showed logs that it was accessible and actually logged into several times during the 2 year period that the report was late. This is pretty strong circumstantial evidence that they were attempting to hide or delay the experiments from being discovered by the grant review process at the end of the year. The report is pretty damning. https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04.2024-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT.pdf https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/12.04...