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iPhone, for non-iMessage recipients, was limited by MMS limits. Who sets the MMS limits? the telcos - actually min(both ends), the iPhone sender's telco and th

by canucker2016 2y ago

iPhone, for non-iMessage recipients, was limited by MMS limits. Who sets the MMS limits? the telcos - actually min(both ends), the iPhone sender's telco and the recipient's telco. iMessage was introduced in 2011. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMessage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMessage Google announced RCS support for Google Messages in 2019. from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services "In June 2019, Google announced that it would begin to deploy RCS on an opt-in basis via the Messages app, with service compliant with the Universal Profile and hosted by Google (i.e. Jibe) rather than the user's carrier, if the carrier does not provide RCS." Before 2019, Android users depended on their telco to support RCS. The RCS wikipedia article talks about Samsung support for RCS in USA in 2015 and Android Lollipop OS users getting RCS support - but they still needed telco support.

NoPicklez 2y ago
They still needed Telco support and Telco's have adopted the technology, Apple has only just adopted the technology late last year, taking them approximately 4+ years since it was supported. Yes Apple provided an improved messaging service before there was one via iMessage, however they have failed in allowing their service to integrate with the rest of the industry that is looking to support an improved open standard that would allow for a better experience between different mobile operating systems. The original point you commented on was about Apple not integrating with other platforms. As I said, I'm an Apple guy but Apple should've implemented RCS as soon as the telco's supported it.
- inkyoto 2y ago
  > They still needed Telco support and Telco's have adopted the technology […] My Telco, the largest national mobile carrier, still does not support RCS in 2025, which makes RCS and which mobile platform supports it and which does not a moot point for me. Telcos do not have an incentive to upgrade the messaging infrastructure alone unless the upgrade comes as part of the core network upgrade, which is usually bound to the number increase in <whatever>G. Since the introduction of 4G, when mobile networks turned into dumb data pipes for everything, including voice, there is very little money to be made in the telco business. ISP's have suffered the same fate.

NoPicklez 2y ago

They still needed Telco support and Telco's have adopted the technology, Apple has only just adopted the technology late last year, taking them approximately 4+ years since it was supported. Yes Apple provided an improved messaging service before there was one via iMessage, however they have failed in allowing their service to integrate with the rest of the industry that is looking to support an improved open standard that would allow for a better experience between different mobile operating systems. The original point you commented on was about Apple not integrating with other platforms. As I said, I'm an Apple guy but Apple should've implemented RCS as soon as the telco's supported it.

inkyoto 2y ago
> They still needed Telco support and Telco's have adopted the technology […] My Telco, the largest national mobile carrier, still does not support RCS in 2025, which makes RCS and which mobile platform supports it and which does not a moot point for me. Telcos do not have an incentive to upgrade the messaging infrastructure alone unless the upgrade comes as part of the core network upgrade, which is usually bound to the number increase in <whatever>G. Since the introduction of 4G, when mobile networks turned into dumb data pipes for everything, including voice, there is very little money to be made in the telco business. ISP's have suffered the same fate.