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Your point could be made, probably even stronger than it is currently, by omitting the insult at the start.

by ziddoap 2y ago

justonenote 2y ago
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- ziddoap 2y ago
  >than a chatgpt style Literally just remove the first 4 words and keep the rest of the comment the same, and it's a better comment. No idea what chatgpt has to do with it.
  - justonenote 2y ago
    That would be removing information and strictly worse that including it. Communication is about communicating information, sometimes a terse short and aggressive style is the most effective way. It activates neurons in a way a paragraph of polite argumentation doesn't.
    - Hello71 2y ago
      the contention of your respondents and downvoters is that regardless of your intention, the extra information actually communicated is "i'm an asshole".
      - justonenote 2y ago
        Fine, that's still extra information. More accurately in the context of the comment, its "Im gonna be an asshole to you because I think you don't have the life experience I do", which is at least, some kind of signal. I wasn't the original responder btw.
- Frederation 2y ago
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  - justonenote 2y ago
    No comment.
- lioeters 2y ago
  Similarly your point would have communicated better without the unnecessary and adolescent final sentence.
  - justonenote 2y ago
    It was for effect. Maybe you'd prefer if we were all maximally polite drones but that's not how humans are, going back to GPs point, and I don't think it's a state than anyone truly wants either.
- cortesoft 2y ago
  “More effective” at what? No one is ever going to be convinced by an argument that begins with an insult. So what do you mean by it will be more effective?
  - justonenote 2y ago
    Do you honestly think an insult never brought about a change in a person? You never think a carefully landed and accurate insult made someone reconsider their position? Weird, because in my experience, that has happened to every single person I know and myself. Whether it's at the start or end of a comment is not really the point.
    - dgfitz 2y ago
      Welp, in this specific instance, your insults are a microcosm of the election results. Stinks, huh?
      - justonenote 2y ago
        Things are very black and white these days, no room for shades.
    - mrbungie 2y ago
      It may do depending in context, but that's not the point and in fact is widely recognized as a ad hominem argument and fallacious by definition. Most emotionally mature people would stop arguing after something like that.

Your point could be made, probably even stronger than it is currently, by omitting the insult at the start.

justonenote 2y ago

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ziddoap 2y ago
>than a chatgpt style Literally just remove the first 4 words and keep the rest of the comment the same, and it's a better comment. No idea what chatgpt has to do with it.
- justonenote 2y ago
  That would be removing information and strictly worse that including it. Communication is about communicating information, sometimes a terse short and aggressive style is the most effective way. It activates neurons in a way a paragraph of polite argumentation doesn't.
  - Hello71 2y ago
    the contention of your respondents and downvoters is that regardless of your intention, the extra information actually communicated is "i'm an asshole".
    - justonenote 2y ago
      Fine, that's still extra information. More accurately in the context of the comment, its "Im gonna be an asshole to you because I think you don't have the life experience I do", which is at least, some kind of signal. I wasn't the original responder btw.
Frederation 2y ago
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- justonenote 2y ago
  No comment.
lioeters 2y ago
Similarly your point would have communicated better without the unnecessary and adolescent final sentence.
- justonenote 2y ago
  It was for effect. Maybe you'd prefer if we were all maximally polite drones but that's not how humans are, going back to GPs point, and I don't think it's a state than anyone truly wants either.
cortesoft 2y ago
“More effective” at what? No one is ever going to be convinced by an argument that begins with an insult. So what do you mean by it will be more effective?
- justonenote 2y ago
  Do you honestly think an insult never brought about a change in a person? You never think a carefully landed and accurate insult made someone reconsider their position? Weird, because in my experience, that has happened to every single person I know and myself. Whether it's at the start or end of a comment is not really the point.
  - dgfitz 2y ago
    Welp, in this specific instance, your insults are a microcosm of the election results. Stinks, huh?
    - justonenote 2y ago
      Things are very black and white these days, no room for shades.
  - mrbungie 2y ago
    It may do depending in context, but that's not the point and in fact is widely recognized as a ad hominem argument and fallacious by definition. Most emotionally mature people would stop arguing after something like that.