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I wouldn't say 2019 is particularly old. I didn't even know IE still existed at the time - I thought it had been replaced by Edge.
by xmprt 2y ago
I wouldn't say 2019 is particularly old. I didn't even know IE still existed at the time - I thought it had been replaced by Edge.
- jsheard 2y agoBelieve it or not IE was still supported in some capacity until 2022, and the underlying Trident engine is still supported until at least 2029. Edge has an official "IE Mode" which switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin. Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke.
- MiddleEndian 2y ago>Microsoft support lifecycles are no joke. Except for Mail and Calendar that they randomly decided to murder and replace with some Outlook webapp garbage.
- jsheard 2y agoThey'll support anything nearly forever if that's what their big support contracts want, but unfortunately their interests won't always align with yours...
- MiddleEndian 2y agoYeah of course haha just ranting
- wongarsu 2y agoFor business plans the old Outlook is still supported until "at least 2029" [1]. That's four more years to switch. And Microsoft hasn't even committed to stopping support at that date, they just don't want to promise more. I fully expect them to extend it because some large customers won't have switched. What is unusual is how pushy Microsoft is in trying to get people to switch now instead of in the last second. And of course the quick murder of the consumer email thingy [1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/outlook/new-outlook-for-windows-a-guide-to-product-availability/4078895 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/outlook/new-outlook...
- MiddleEndian 2y agoI specifically mean Windows Mail and Windows Calendar, the fairly minimalist apps, rather than Outlook, which is way too exhausting to use for my personal email and calendar. Plus the Outlook app has ads.
- datavirtue 2y agoThat sounds dangerous.
- jsheard 2y agoThe good news is that most of the web simply doesn't work in Trident at this point, so users won't be tempted to use it for anything other than the 20 year old ActiveX horror that their company refuses to replace.
- userbinator 2y agowhich switches the backend from Chromium to Trident, effectively turning it into IE with a modern skin I wish they'd done the opposite instead: same UI, but with a better browser engine.
- throwaway2037 2y ago> better browser engine I'm confused. Are you saying Chromium or Trident browser engine is better? And, in 2025, is there a better engine than Chromium?
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- userbinator 2y agoIE UI, Chromium engine.
- throwaway2037 2y agoNo trolling: Isn't that Microsoft Edge?
- 3836293648 2y agoNo? Edge still looks almost exactly like any other Chromium version?
- gkbrk 2y ago> And, in 2025, is there a better engine than Chromium? WebKit and Gecko are way better
- egeozcan 2y agoI wish someone recreated Netscape Navigator UI with the Gecko engine. I can't give any reasons, I just wish it.
- chasil 2y agoThis is useful to me because a) it still allows http basic auth, which is disabled by policy in my workplace for Edge/Blink, and b) because it otherwise allows dual logins and credentials to the same site, in the same browser.