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The reason war may be coming is because the West is falling apart. The US is isolating itself and bullying its allies. Alternative powers wanting to do somethin

The reason war may be coming is because the West is falling apart. The US is isolating itself and bullying its allies. Alternative powers wanting to do something expansive never had a better moment in time to do so. There was no war forthcoming between an integrated West and any other power. War is coming because there no longer is a West.

NemoNobody 2y ago
Right. So... when the Russian tanks start rolling on the way to Berlin and Chinese troops are marching along that nice new (old) road they finished fixing up - otw to Europe, so if that happens, which looks possible - you think there will be no West?? If the world is to be divided Europe is the lowest hanging and sweetest fruit. I think there will still be West even if there is a King in the US demanding fealty to part of it - we are the same as they are, it's ridiculous to pretend we are. Ideology is one thing, survival of people and culture is another.
- iteratethis 2y ago
  I mean there will be no West as we currently know it. The US is now a hostile state to former allies that collectively make up what we call the West. Thus the West disintegrates. Each disintegrated part will of course defend itself in case of war, but other scenarios are possible. For example, the EU could actually move closer towards China for trade. When the US threatens allies with economic disruption or even an invasion, don't be surprised if those countries make alternative plans and team up with alternative powers.
  - krapp 2y ago
    There will still be a West, it just won't include the United States.
    - iteratethis 2y ago
      Well, yes, that's what I was saying. But a West without the US is not a tiny change.
greenchair 2y ago
now that the adults are back in charge, we should be good for a few more years at least.
- throwaway743 2y ago
  /s
daft_pink 2y ago
The reasons are not the main focus here. The fact is that China's aggressive stance on Taiwan, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and the alignment with China, North Korea, and Iran are leading to military buildups and alliances worldwide. Google, being a company founded and controlled by Americans, is likely to support the effort if a war occurs, rather than remain passive while their friends and family's children are dying. Today people have differing views of nuclear weapons, but people who fought near Japan and survived believe the bomb saved their life. It's easy to pretend you don't have a sides when there is peace, but in this environment google's going to take a side.

NemoNobody 2y ago

Right. So... when the Russian tanks start rolling on the way to Berlin and Chinese troops are marching along that nice new (old) road they finished fixing up - otw to Europe, so if that happens, which looks possible - you think there will be no West?? If the world is to be divided Europe is the lowest hanging and sweetest fruit. I think there will still be West even if there is a King in the US demanding fealty to part of it - we are the same as they are, it's ridiculous to pretend we are. Ideology is one thing, survival of people and culture is another.

iteratethis 2y ago
I mean there will be no West as we currently know it. The US is now a hostile state to former allies that collectively make up what we call the West. Thus the West disintegrates. Each disintegrated part will of course defend itself in case of war, but other scenarios are possible. For example, the EU could actually move closer towards China for trade. When the US threatens allies with economic disruption or even an invasion, don't be surprised if those countries make alternative plans and team up with alternative powers.
- krapp 2y ago
  There will still be a West, it just won't include the United States.
  - iteratethis 2y ago
    Well, yes, that's what I was saying. But a West without the US is not a tiny change.

greenchair 2y ago

now that the adults are back in charge, we should be good for a few more years at least.

throwaway743 2y ago
/s

daft_pink 2y ago

The reasons are not the main focus here. The fact is that China's aggressive stance on Taiwan, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and the alignment with China, North Korea, and Iran are leading to military buildups and alliances worldwide. Google, being a company founded and controlled by Americans, is likely to support the effort if a war occurs, rather than remain passive while their friends and family's children are dying. Today people have differing views of nuclear weapons, but people who fought near Japan and survived believe the bomb saved their life. It's easy to pretend you don't have a sides when there is peace, but in this environment google's going to take a side.