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It shouldn't be allowed in the US. Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination.

briandear 2y ago
Why? Does the color affect functionality or are we going to pass laws based on feelings?
- dwaltrip 2y ago
  Hate to break it to ya, everything humans do is fundamentally affected by feelings.
- echelon 2y ago
  > are we going to pass laws based on feelings? This is very concrete fuckery. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust-lawsuit-00148189 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust... https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bubble-stigma-is-part-of-the-anti-trust-case-against-apple https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bub... https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-are-an-issue-in-iphone-monopoly-suit/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-a...
  - simplify 2y ago
    The concrete fuckery: (Politico) Lower video quality (NPR) Feeling unwelcome (TechCrunch) Peer pressure
- TheDong 2y ago
  It does. If you try to send a photo in an inferior green bubble chat, you get an error. Face time calls don’t work. The text is harder to read for me because it’s low contrast and can’t be configured. It’s significantly less secure, and a government agent required I use blue bubble imessage to submit an important document for security, and wouldn’t accept it by sms or email since both were not secure enough
  - astrange 2y ago
    That should work now because of RCS. Email is secure enough though. People make up security rules in their heads all the time, doesn't mean it's true.
    - flutas 2y ago
      Tbh Apple's RCS implementation is so buggy it almost has me on the "they added bugs to keep people off of it" conspiracy train. As in, during a conversation my phone would send RCS and the iPhone would reply with SMS only. This has happened multiple times with multiple people, and some where RCS won't let us communicate - the messages just disappear into the void, but only when sent from the iPhone. https://i.imgur.com/FrMfECA.png https://i.imgur.com/FrMfECA.png
      - Aloisius 2y ago
        This happens in Android to Android too, especially with Samsung Messages. A lot of carrier's RCS implementations are buggy.
    - whimsicalism 2y ago
      apple has intentionally handicapped rcs and it is still ongoing
  - Spivak 2y ago
    What are you talking about? Photos have worked in MSS group chats for 10+ years now. They send as shit quality but they work. And now mixed group chats are RCS which has all the important features of iMessage.
    - TheDong 2y ago
      The error tells me to turn on MMS, which is already on. RCS isn’t an obvious option anywhere
      - 2y ago
tick_tock_tick 2y ago
> Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination. Lets not kid ourselves she was going to keep focusing on minimum impact, likely to fail cases with good optics, and inventing more obtuse interpretations of anti-trust law while continuing to ignore any real monopolies she could.

briandear 2y ago

Why? Does the color affect functionality or are we going to pass laws based on feelings?

dwaltrip 2y ago
Hate to break it to ya, everything humans do is fundamentally affected by feelings.
echelon 2y ago
> are we going to pass laws based on feelings? This is very concrete fuckery. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust-lawsuit-00148189 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust... https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bubble-stigma-is-part-of-the-anti-trust-case-against-apple https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bub... https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-are-an-issue-in-iphone-monopoly-suit/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-a...
- simplify 2y ago
  The concrete fuckery: (Politico) Lower video quality (NPR) Feeling unwelcome (TechCrunch) Peer pressure
TheDong 2y ago
It does. If you try to send a photo in an inferior green bubble chat, you get an error. Face time calls don’t work. The text is harder to read for me because it’s low contrast and can’t be configured. It’s significantly less secure, and a government agent required I use blue bubble imessage to submit an important document for security, and wouldn’t accept it by sms or email since both were not secure enough
- astrange 2y ago
  That should work now because of RCS. Email is secure enough though. People make up security rules in their heads all the time, doesn't mean it's true.
  - flutas 2y ago
    Tbh Apple's RCS implementation is so buggy it almost has me on the "they added bugs to keep people off of it" conspiracy train. As in, during a conversation my phone would send RCS and the iPhone would reply with SMS only. This has happened multiple times with multiple people, and some where RCS won't let us communicate - the messages just disappear into the void, but only when sent from the iPhone. https://i.imgur.com/FrMfECA.png https://i.imgur.com/FrMfECA.png
    - Aloisius 2y ago
      This happens in Android to Android too, especially with Samsung Messages. A lot of carrier's RCS implementations are buggy.
  - whimsicalism 2y ago
    apple has intentionally handicapped rcs and it is still ongoing
- Spivak 2y ago
  What are you talking about? Photos have worked in MSS group chats for 10+ years now. They send as shit quality but they work. And now mixed group chats are RCS which has all the important features of iMessage.
  - TheDong 2y ago
    The error tells me to turn on MMS, which is already on. RCS isn’t an obvious option anywhere
    - 2y ago

tick_tock_tick 2y ago

> Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination. Lets not kid ourselves she was going to keep focusing on minimum impact, likely to fail cases with good optics, and inventing more obtuse interpretations of anti-trust law while continuing to ignore any real monopolies she could.