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Agree that there are ways to say it nicer, but I still contend that what I said was not aggressive. The poster started with "Correct!" and they didn't understan

Agree that there are ways to say it nicer, but I still contend that what I said was not aggressive. The poster started with "Correct!" and they didn't understand the thing they said was "correct." I think it's fair to point out that they inappropriately made statements about something they didn't know. They even admitted to learning it afterwards. Its fair criticism and if folks wanna be making claims online they should be able to handle it.

dredmorbius 2y ago
If you read dang's admonitions (as I have, for many years) you'll find that his viewpoint and official HN policy is that tone matters immensely, and is often read as diminished / positive by authors and amplified / negatively by recipients. Searching for "personal attacks" and "swipes" will turn up many such examples: "personal attacks": <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20personal%20attacks&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...> "swipes": <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20swipes&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...>
- nessbot 2y ago
  I hear you. But like I said, I didn't make a personal attack or swipe. I pointed out that the person shouldn't confidently make claims for things they don't know lest they spread misinformation. It was a fair comment.
  - dredmorbius 2y ago
    Again, my initial comment here (<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42939581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42939581>), and go through some of dang's many comments for where he draws the line. (I'm not dang, I'm not a mod, just something of a student of how HN (dys)functions over the years. Which is generally far above the online norm, not that the bar isn't low.)
    - nessbot 2y ago
      Yeah, and again, I'm saying you're incorrectly saying my comment fits that mold and I disagree.

dredmorbius 2y ago

If you read dang's admonitions (as I have, for many years) you'll find that his viewpoint and official HN policy is that tone matters immensely, and is often read as diminished / positive by authors and amplified / negatively by recipients. Searching for "personal attacks" and "swipes" will turn up many such examples: "personal attacks": <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20personal%20attacks&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...> "swipes": <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20swipes&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...>

nessbot 2y ago
I hear you. But like I said, I didn't make a personal attack or swipe. I pointed out that the person shouldn't confidently make claims for things they don't know lest they spread misinformation. It was a fair comment.
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  Again, my initial comment here (<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42939581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42939581>), and go through some of dang's many comments for where he draws the line. (I'm not dang, I'm not a mod, just something of a student of how HN (dys)functions over the years. Which is generally far above the online norm, not that the bar isn't low.)
  - nessbot 2y ago
    Yeah, and again, I'm saying you're incorrectly saying my comment fits that mold and I disagree.