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Except that replacing "master" with "main" probably didn't affect the lives of people subject to systemic discrimination. This might do

lucasyvas 2y ago
I agree with the parent comment, but believe you have the more correct and important perspective in the current context. They are both probably forms of overcorrection, this too far in the wrong direction where the former could have been too far in the more ideal direction. Pandering is not as bad as discrimination, as you’ve pointed out.
pipes 2y ago
It does not seem fair to me to exclude or include people in financial aid programs based on the colour of their skin. Individual circumstances seems like a much fairer and much less divisive system.
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  I hope that this was valued in accordance to other values. Eg. A rich black kid in Washington probably wouldn't be eligible to receive this grants, while a poor white kid in Kentucky would. I also hope that "systemic discrimination" would take into account more than just skin color
- netsharc 2y ago
  https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2686895-equality-equity-justice https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2686895-equality-equity-just... , hopefully this is still visible to the people in oppressed regimes.. This comments section seem to be full of the "Fuck Woke DEI" Maganazis and mentioning "systemic racism" will trigger them, but if you're still reading, look at George Floyd, in an alternate world, he'd be a wealthy person descendant of landowners, but in this reality, his grandparents' land was stolen, he grew up poor (and black) and ended up being yet another black-murdered-by-cop figure: https://dwkcommentaries.com/2020/10/08/a-moving-biography-of-george-floyd/ https://dwkcommentaries.com/2020/10/08/a-moving-biography-of... . But snowflakes get triggered if there's an idea of better treatment for descendants of victims of systemic racism (another snowflake trigger word). To the snowflakes: Hey, why care about all that, your continued violence has won you the ethno-supremacy fascism you wanted, where being white and incompetent doesn't matter, because you'll get that cushy job anyway!
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
No. This is the idiocy that continues to undermine any argument from free speech or forced speech. You cannot just agree with the language you like. You have to be able to live with horrible, horrid language that you detest and then, maybe, we can have some semblance of sense come back. Words don't hurt people. People do. Case in point, it is not words that are deleting those words. It is actions. You are part of the problem. Yes. You.
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  I'm not sure if I am understanding your message. You are trying to say that I should live without dei messages? If so, I live in a country where I basically lived half of my (pretty short yet, tbh) life without those kind of messages. I was too young to be offended by the lack of messages, I'm now grateful that there is a consideration for different backgrounds. An example might be jobs postings, in computer science the tone used for the post might discourage more women to apply than man. Having a process to ensure this doesn't happen results in more women applying, but more men as well, the increase is just less than woman in % I also not see an issue with changing a word that has a bleak history with one that hasn't, it doesn't remove anything from people
  - A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
    << I also not see an issue with changing a word that has a bleak history with one that hasn't, it doesn't remove anything from people I will be very blunt. You are simply wrong. Not just inaccurate, but wrong. Not technically wrong, but wrong. If it removes word, it removes something. And since "something" is far, far removed from 'not anything'. You are factually wrong. As in, you cannot get more wrong than you just did. Fucking QED.
    - amarcheschi 2y ago
      It is changed, not removed. This time is removed. Honestly, I don't get your point. Mind your words jesus

lucasyvas 2y ago

I agree with the parent comment, but believe you have the more correct and important perspective in the current context. They are both probably forms of overcorrection, this too far in the wrong direction where the former could have been too far in the more ideal direction. Pandering is not as bad as discrimination, as you’ve pointed out.

pipes 2y ago

It does not seem fair to me to exclude or include people in financial aid programs based on the colour of their skin. Individual circumstances seems like a much fairer and much less divisive system.

amarcheschi 2y ago
I hope that this was valued in accordance to other values. Eg. A rich black kid in Washington probably wouldn't be eligible to receive this grants, while a poor white kid in Kentucky would. I also hope that "systemic discrimination" would take into account more than just skin color
netsharc 2y ago
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2686895-equality-equity-justice https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2686895-equality-equity-just... , hopefully this is still visible to the people in oppressed regimes.. This comments section seem to be full of the "Fuck Woke DEI" Maganazis and mentioning "systemic racism" will trigger them, but if you're still reading, look at George Floyd, in an alternate world, he'd be a wealthy person descendant of landowners, but in this reality, his grandparents' land was stolen, he grew up poor (and black) and ended up being yet another black-murdered-by-cop figure: https://dwkcommentaries.com/2020/10/08/a-moving-biography-of-george-floyd/ https://dwkcommentaries.com/2020/10/08/a-moving-biography-of... . But snowflakes get triggered if there's an idea of better treatment for descendants of victims of systemic racism (another snowflake trigger word). To the snowflakes: Hey, why care about all that, your continued violence has won you the ethno-supremacy fascism you wanted, where being white and incompetent doesn't matter, because you'll get that cushy job anyway!

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago

No. This is the idiocy that continues to undermine any argument from free speech or forced speech. You cannot just agree with the language you like. You have to be able to live with horrible, horrid language that you detest and then, maybe, we can have some semblance of sense come back. Words don't hurt people. People do. Case in point, it is not words that are deleting those words. It is actions. You are part of the problem. Yes. You.

amarcheschi 2y ago
I'm not sure if I am understanding your message. You are trying to say that I should live without dei messages? If so, I live in a country where I basically lived half of my (pretty short yet, tbh) life without those kind of messages. I was too young to be offended by the lack of messages, I'm now grateful that there is a consideration for different backgrounds. An example might be jobs postings, in computer science the tone used for the post might discourage more women to apply than man. Having a process to ensure this doesn't happen results in more women applying, but more men as well, the increase is just less than woman in % I also not see an issue with changing a word that has a bleak history with one that hasn't, it doesn't remove anything from people
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y ago
  << I also not see an issue with changing a word that has a bleak history with one that hasn't, it doesn't remove anything from people I will be very blunt. You are simply wrong. Not just inaccurate, but wrong. Not technically wrong, but wrong. If it removes word, it removes something. And since "something" is far, far removed from 'not anything'. You are factually wrong. As in, you cannot get more wrong than you just did. Fucking QED.
  - amarcheschi 2y ago
    It is changed, not removed. This time is removed. Honestly, I don't get your point. Mind your words jesus