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It’s not. The West = Europe, US and their the allies. Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians.

pseudalopex 2y ago
It depends on the context. A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably. I mean, no shit, the racist's definition of almost anything sociological is going to be racist.
  - pseudalopex 2y ago
    michpoch stated a universal definition of the west. I stated it depends on context. You agree it depends on context evidently. Racism is not the sole exception. Most Japanese people do not consider themselves western in most contexts. Including xenophiles.
portaouflop 2y ago
Japan is one of the most racist countries on the planet and was historically an ally of Nazi Germany
- hyperold 2y ago
  And the US crushed them, pretty hard. It was mostly white people who defeated that evil nation. Just like it was mostly white people that defeated Nazi Germany. Maybe people back then should have been more into the current "whites are all the same" level of thinking to prevent all those pointless wars.
  - Hikikomori 2y ago
    So one racist country wins against another. Not sure what the point is.
    - hyperold 2y ago
      Maybe those racists should have gotten together, forget their minor differences, and commit even more atrocious acts since folks these days think they were all baddies (and white, the worst thing of them all!) anyway. The wars they fought were completely pointless. If only there was someone to tell them that all whites are really the same, so they would have understood. Well, Hitler had some ideas of unity close to that (with idiotic things like excluding "those stupid eastern slavs"). Modern racists see nothing but the skin colour, they don't even bother measuring your skull. That's how bad things have gotten.
      - portaouflop 2y ago
        They tried to do that, look up Nazism in the Americas - fortunately the white supremacists were very much in the minority in the US. Modern racists operate pretty much the same way as 100+ years ago
        Hikikomori 2y ago
        Wouldn't say that racists were in the minority. Hitler starting several wars turned them off from fascism, in Britain as well, but regular old racism and white supremacy was strong.
  - portaouflop 2y ago
    You are hallucinating arguments that I never made. I said “the west” in the context of what Palantirs CEO was talking about refers to countries that are mainly seen as populated by white people. I never said “white people bad” but that is what you seem to understand, I wonder where it came from?
    - 2y ago
anothercoup 2y ago
> Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians. Japan is not in the west. Japan is not a western country. They are not a western peoples. They don't speak a western language. They don't have western culture. They don't even use western script. In what world is Japan "in the West"? Ask a japanese person whether they are in the west or are westerners. They'd laugh in your face. The west is narrowly western european or western european descended majority nations. Broadly it's european majority nations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

pseudalopex 2y ago

It depends on the context. A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably. I mean, no shit, the racist's definition of almost anything sociological is going to be racist.
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  michpoch stated a universal definition of the west. I stated it depends on context. You agree it depends on context evidently. Racism is not the sole exception. Most Japanese people do not consider themselves western in most contexts. Including xenophiles.

portaouflop 2y ago

Japan is one of the most racist countries on the planet and was historically an ally of Nazi Germany

hyperold 2y ago
And the US crushed them, pretty hard. It was mostly white people who defeated that evil nation. Just like it was mostly white people that defeated Nazi Germany. Maybe people back then should have been more into the current "whites are all the same" level of thinking to prevent all those pointless wars.
- Hikikomori 2y ago
  So one racist country wins against another. Not sure what the point is.
  - hyperold 2y ago
    Maybe those racists should have gotten together, forget their minor differences, and commit even more atrocious acts since folks these days think they were all baddies (and white, the worst thing of them all!) anyway. The wars they fought were completely pointless. If only there was someone to tell them that all whites are really the same, so they would have understood. Well, Hitler had some ideas of unity close to that (with idiotic things like excluding "those stupid eastern slavs"). Modern racists see nothing but the skin colour, they don't even bother measuring your skull. That's how bad things have gotten.
    - portaouflop 2y ago
      They tried to do that, look up Nazism in the Americas - fortunately the white supremacists were very much in the minority in the US. Modern racists operate pretty much the same way as 100+ years ago
      - Hikikomori 2y ago
        Wouldn't say that racists were in the minority. Hitler starting several wars turned them off from fascism, in Britain as well, but regular old racism and white supremacy was strong.
- portaouflop 2y ago
  You are hallucinating arguments that I never made. I said “the west” in the context of what Palantirs CEO was talking about refers to countries that are mainly seen as populated by white people. I never said “white people bad” but that is what you seem to understand, I wonder where it came from?
  - 2y ago

anothercoup 2y ago

> Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians. Japan is not in the west. Japan is not a western country. They are not a western peoples. They don't speak a western language. They don't have western culture. They don't even use western script. In what world is Japan "in the West"? Ask a japanese person whether they are in the west or are westerners. They'd laugh in your face. The west is narrowly western european or western european descended majority nations. Broadly it's european majority nations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world