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Here's a Geekbench comparison vs Orange Pi 5+ with rk3588. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseline=10222859 https://browser.geekbench.com

Here's a Geekbench comparison vs Orange Pi 5+ with rk3588. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseline=10222859 https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseli... 60% or better lift across the board for single core. Not bad imo. Catching up with a larger tablet/MID (mobile internet device)/ultra Snapdragon 8cx gen3 is unlikely to come from nowhere. The A720 class core here is good, Neoverse N3 class, but it's still a small chip for arm. On phones there's been the Cortex-X cores above in the lineup for a long time. It's widely assumed the bigger performance flagship Neoverse V3 services from the Cortex-X lineup. https://www.anandtech.com/show/21270/arm-announces-neoverse-v3-and-n3-cpu-cores https://www.anandtech.com/show/21270/arm-announces-neoverse-... What's the power consumption actually looking like?!? 8 wasn't expecting anywhere remotely near phone or desktop cores, apple or Qualcomm chips. Also note that this has considerably more I/o than I think anything made by Qualcomm? There was zero chance this thing was going to come out of the gate well supported with mainline Linux support & a good uefi/acpi boot chain. Whether Cix can straddle the line & release enough information while not breaking any disclosure limits ARM is setting will as ever be a challenge, assuming Cix even wants to make this a well supported chip some day. Radxa bears some responsibility as an integrator and board maker but it is such a wider web of work that it takes to make these things happen, and although open source has amazing force multipliers of existing libraries, there's countless force dividers of legal × documentation challenges that detract. One does not just ship ARM Immortalis GC10 support! These are broader projects, are practically civilization scale or deci-civlizatiok scale efforts, ones open source would gladly be doing & more fervently... If there weren't so so many lawyers & NDA's in the mix, from the top on down. I'm still very excited here. This looks like it could be an awesome nas. I wonder if it'll support PCIe-bifurcation, which would help NAS'ing it out so much. Jeff? :)

rbanffy 2y ago
> Whether Cix can straddle the line At least there is a kernel and PC-like boot process. I'm cautiously optimistic.
- ChocolateGod 2y ago
  > At least there is a kernel and PC-like boot process. I'm cautiously optimistic. Me too, I hope it makes building general purpose ARM desktops more feasible. ARM UEFI/ACPI has been around for quite some time, but nearly all SBCs (outside server space) either don't support it or don't support it properly, and if iirc Linux has been hesitant to support it due to device trees.
megous 2y ago
> Here's a Geekbench comparison vs Orange Pi 5+ with rk3588. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseli https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseli... > >60% or better lift across the board for single core. Not bad imo. The numbers look like nonsense. There's no indication of what's being comapred. From the look of it (see the table), the little core on RK3588 is compared against big core on Cix.
- megous 2y ago
  Now, looking at supposed inter-generational CPU performance increases between Cortex-A76 up to A720 (as presented on wikipedia), that adds theoretically to ~50% increase at the same clock frequency, so I guess it's plausible.

rbanffy 2y ago

> Whether Cix can straddle the line At least there is a kernel and PC-like boot process. I'm cautiously optimistic.

ChocolateGod 2y ago
> At least there is a kernel and PC-like boot process. I'm cautiously optimistic. Me too, I hope it makes building general purpose ARM desktops more feasible. ARM UEFI/ACPI has been around for quite some time, but nearly all SBCs (outside server space) either don't support it or don't support it properly, and if iirc Linux has been hesitant to support it due to device trees.

megous 2y ago

> Here's a Geekbench comparison vs Orange Pi 5+ with rk3588. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseli https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/10014991?baseli... > >60% or better lift across the board for single core. Not bad imo. The numbers look like nonsense. There's no indication of what's being comapred. From the look of it (see the table), the little core on RK3588 is compared against big core on Cix.

megous 2y ago
Now, looking at supposed inter-generational CPU performance increases between Cortex-A76 up to A720 (as presented on wikipedia), that adds theoretically to ~50% increase at the same clock frequency, so I guess it's plausible.