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And if they don’t give someone better, in your opinion, then what next? Inaction?

by yladiz 2y ago

jayGlow 2y ago
vote for a different party that aligns with your views?
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y ago
  with the voting system present in the US, it is essentially impossible for a 3rd party to come into existence that has any hope of significant federal or even state level power.
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  The USA is the opposite of pluralistic. No third party has managed to build any serious political infrastructure at the local level and expand it regionally or nationally. That's why there are so many frivolous third party candidates for president; they're desperate to get a percentage of votes that will generate some federal funding to sustain organizational growth, and running for President is one of the few ways to get sufficient attention for that nationally.
- timeon 2y ago
  Yes that is normal thing to do in pluralist democracies. Unfortunately not an option in two-party system.
- saturn8601 2y ago
  The third party in the US is an amalgamation of the leftover scraps of losers that couldn't make it in the other parties. Because that's exactly what the Greens and to a lesser extent Libertarians are. To be fair it is wonderful that Howie Hawkins has managed to get the Greens on the ballot in 36 or so states. Its crazy that you can't even vote for this party in all states. But the vote count is horrendous. The best this country has ever done in recent memory was Ralph Nader and he was a someone famous that could move the needle....he still only got 2.74% of the vote.
drawkward 2y ago
Certainly not vote for someone I think is unfit to be president!
- yladiz 2y ago
  That didn’t really answer my question. Let me make it more clear: let’s say two things are true: 1. Your vote for president does matter, so you’re not in a state where it’s almost certainly decided before the vote happens; and, 2. You agree that there are really two parties you can vote for. If you think Party A is really bad or dangerous, would you vote for Party B even if they don’t give a decent candidate, or would you just not vote?
  - drawkward 2y ago
    I would vote for a third party. I am not going to vote for a person who is not a decent candidate. That's how you continue to get shit shoved down your throat.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  Every election in the US is a choice. One of the two choices will run the country no matter what happens on November 5th. Show up and express literally any opinion about which direction you want your country to develop in, or everyone else will make your choice for you. Or don't do anything, and stand back smug as people are shipped off to Gitmo for being brown. That's cool too I guess.

And if they don’t give someone better, in your opinion, then what next? Inaction?

by yladiz 2y ago

And if they don’t give someone better, in your opinion, then what next? Inaction?

jayGlow 2y ago

vote for a different party that aligns with your views?

PaulDavisThe1st 2y ago
with the voting system present in the US, it is essentially impossible for a 3rd party to come into existence that has any hope of significant federal or even state level power.
anigbrowl 2y ago
The USA is the opposite of pluralistic. No third party has managed to build any serious political infrastructure at the local level and expand it regionally or nationally. That's why there are so many frivolous third party candidates for president; they're desperate to get a percentage of votes that will generate some federal funding to sustain organizational growth, and running for President is one of the few ways to get sufficient attention for that nationally.
timeon 2y ago
Yes that is normal thing to do in pluralist democracies. Unfortunately not an option in two-party system.
saturn8601 2y ago
The third party in the US is an amalgamation of the leftover scraps of losers that couldn't make it in the other parties. Because that's exactly what the Greens and to a lesser extent Libertarians are. To be fair it is wonderful that Howie Hawkins has managed to get the Greens on the ballot in 36 or so states. Its crazy that you can't even vote for this party in all states. But the vote count is horrendous. The best this country has ever done in recent memory was Ralph Nader and he was a someone famous that could move the needle....he still only got 2.74% of the vote.

drawkward 2y ago

Certainly not vote for someone I think is unfit to be president!

yladiz 2y ago
That didn’t really answer my question. Let me make it more clear: let’s say two things are true: 1. Your vote for president does matter, so you’re not in a state where it’s almost certainly decided before the vote happens; and, 2. You agree that there are really two parties you can vote for. If you think Party A is really bad or dangerous, would you vote for Party B even if they don’t give a decent candidate, or would you just not vote?
- drawkward 2y ago
  I would vote for a third party. I am not going to vote for a person who is not a decent candidate. That's how you continue to get shit shoved down your throat.
mrguyorama 2y ago
Every election in the US is a choice. One of the two choices will run the country no matter what happens on November 5th. Show up and express literally any opinion about which direction you want your country to develop in, or everyone else will make your choice for you. Or don't do anything, and stand back smug as people are shipped off to Gitmo for being brown. That's cool too I guess.