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You can argue back and forth over how much they pay and how its distributed. For me personally its a black and white divide. I pay for Spotify and something ge

You can argue back and forth over how much they pay and how its distributed. For me personally its a black and white divide. I pay for Spotify and something gets put back in to the industry or we all pretend its 2005 again and start sailing the high seas so nothing goes back. I'm sure with a 1gb up/down home connection its easier than ever.

Nursie 2y ago
It's not black and white when there are other platforms that do a better job at distribution.
- swarnie 2y ago
  I'll admit ignorance in this area. Can you name me one that will do unlimited everything, no adverts, PC and mobile for about £9 a month?
  - Nursie 2y ago
    Apple, Deezer, Tidal and Spotify are all about the same price (Spotify is £11.99 in the UK, Tidal is 10.99) and they all have all of those features. Tidal claim to distribute more to artists than the other big ones, and Deezer claim to do so as well, or have a better compensation model, or something. AFAICT from using Spotify, Deezer and Apple they all have access to the same library, with more or less the exact same gaps. This is not to say any of them are perfect, but it does give us room to say “Spotify have flaws with how they spend our subscription money, you can choose not to use them” without implicitly or explicitly encouraging piracy. Some artists I like have encouraged people to switch away to the other services because of what they see as unfair practice from Spotify.
  - Nursie 2y ago
    Currently I use Apple because I bundle it with other Apple stuff. Plus on top of those features I can also sync my own mp3 collection and use that from wherever (in theory, in practice the sync is partially successful, which is somewhat frustrating).
reverendsteveii 2y ago
secret third option: I like a band so I sail the high seas and then buy merch, or join a patreon, or some other way of cutting out at least some of the most egregious middlemen and directly supporting artists.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Funny enough, my wife and I are going from the US to London this summer and part of our plan is to see Lionel Richie while we are there…
ghaff 2y ago
Most people don't have a home connection like that but I'm not sure it really matters. The mainstream has generally accepted a music streaming subscription as a much more convenient alternative to routine piracy and has mostly gotten out of the habit of purchasing music whether digital or on-disc. Yes, there are exceptions--probably more than in the population here--but they're certainly not the norm.
- maccard 2y ago
  > Most people don't have a home connection like that but I'm not sure it really matters. It doesn't. Even on a rough 4g connection you can download a full song in about a second and upload one in about 10 seconds.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    A lot of people here vastly overvalue a very high speed internet connection when it rarely matters past some (relative low bandwidth on a reliable link) connection for most.
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Nursie 2y ago

It's not black and white when there are other platforms that do a better job at distribution.

swarnie 2y ago
I'll admit ignorance in this area. Can you name me one that will do unlimited everything, no adverts, PC and mobile for about £9 a month?
- Nursie 2y ago
  Apple, Deezer, Tidal and Spotify are all about the same price (Spotify is £11.99 in the UK, Tidal is 10.99) and they all have all of those features. Tidal claim to distribute more to artists than the other big ones, and Deezer claim to do so as well, or have a better compensation model, or something. AFAICT from using Spotify, Deezer and Apple they all have access to the same library, with more or less the exact same gaps. This is not to say any of them are perfect, but it does give us room to say “Spotify have flaws with how they spend our subscription money, you can choose not to use them” without implicitly or explicitly encouraging piracy. Some artists I like have encouraged people to switch away to the other services because of what they see as unfair practice from Spotify.
- Nursie 2y ago
  Currently I use Apple because I bundle it with other Apple stuff. Plus on top of those features I can also sync my own mp3 collection and use that from wherever (in theory, in practice the sync is partially successful, which is somewhat frustrating).

reverendsteveii 2y ago

secret third option: I like a band so I sail the high seas and then buy merch, or join a patreon, or some other way of cutting out at least some of the most egregious middlemen and directly supporting artists.

scarface_74 2y ago
Funny enough, my wife and I are going from the US to London this summer and part of our plan is to see Lionel Richie while we are there…

ghaff 2y ago

Most people don't have a home connection like that but I'm not sure it really matters. The mainstream has generally accepted a music streaming subscription as a much more convenient alternative to routine piracy and has mostly gotten out of the habit of purchasing music whether digital or on-disc. Yes, there are exceptions--probably more than in the population here--but they're certainly not the norm.

maccard 2y ago
> Most people don't have a home connection like that but I'm not sure it really matters. It doesn't. Even on a rough 4g connection you can download a full song in about a second and upload one in about 10 seconds.
- ghaff 2y ago
  A lot of people here vastly overvalue a very high speed internet connection when it rarely matters past some (relative low bandwidth on a reliable link) connection for most.
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