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• franktankbank 2y ago
  > You wouldn't start by looking at a giant list of wire transfers from/to the company's bank accounts Might be the first data you secure though.
  • saghm 2y ago
    In what way is this "securing" the data? > a top DOGE employee, 25 year old former SpaceX employee Marko Elez, has not only read but write access to BFS servers > One senior IT source can see Mark retrieving “close to a thousand rows of data” but they can’t see the content because the system is “top secret” even to them. No source I have has knowledge of what DOGE is doing with the data they are retrieving
  • Naklin 2y ago
    Every report on this shows the data has been made much LESS secure now.
    • franktankbank 2y ago
      I was referring to how you'd conduct an audit. I don't mean adding extra security, I mean taking backups so they can't be tampered during the audit.
      • Naklin 2y ago
        That’s the same thing though. You think the treasury doesn’t have a metric ton of procedures, and laws, on data management, integrity, access, backup and retention? Breaking these protocols by giving unfettered write access to this data to ridiculously inexperienced and ignorant goons exponentially increases the risk of data tampering and corruption… It makes any kind of audit LESS likely to be accurate. But they’re very obviously not doing any kind of credible audit. As mentioned, that’s literally impossible and nonsensical to do this way.
        • taylodl 2y ago
          Untrained "auditors" will do an "audit" and blast the "results" all over X, Fox News, Newsmax, and OAN. Seems legit.
          • llamaimperative 2y ago
            "The vibes were so off with these rows of data bro" - BigBalls (actual screenname of one of these newly blessed "auditors")
• tlb 2y ago
  Not if the company had up-to-date audited financials, no. You'd start with those. The problem is agencies that haven't been audited in a decade. The agencies literally don't report how much money they get, their current balances, or where it goes. Here's the DOD proudly announcing that they now have clean audits for 11 of their 28 departments: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3967135/dods-2024-audit-shows-progress-toward-2028-goals/ https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/39.... Surely nothing bad is happening in the other 17.
  • Naklin 2y ago
    I’m all for better accounting practices and better tracking of government spending as well as eliminating waste. Absolutely. But pretending that Musk and co are doing an audit by accessing treasury records and payment systems or that it will help with government waste in any way is laughable. Again, literally no one would be able to make any kind of credible department spending audit out of the bank records of a mid-sized company. This is the US government’s treasury we’re talking about here! This is several orders of magnitude bigger and more complicated! Not to mention an audit would not require any write access.
  • llamaimperative 2y ago
    If only there were a part of the government whose job it was to proactively and continuously crawl the interiors of the bureaucracy to identify opportunities for improvement... If only they had a standing list of more than 5000 such improvement opportunities... Welcome to the Government Accountability Office!