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>If you don't like Metro, launch the desktop and forget it even exists. Been using W8 on my desktop at work for about a month now. If only it were that easy.

>If you don't like Metro, launch the desktop and forget it even exists. Been using W8 on my desktop at work for about a month now. If only it were that easy. The big problem is that W8 is insanely inconsistent. Trying to change system settings can result in having to navigate a byzantine maze guiding you through new Metro interfaces with old-school control panel applets interspersed throughout. The Control Panel still exists, but there's also a Metro PC settings interface, and trying to search will give you some mix of the two. It's just a nightmare to navigate. It's more that the entire user experience sucks than it has anything to do with any single application.

EvanAnderson 14y ago
I haven't looked at the release previews yet but I can only imagine. The antique-looking Windows 3.1 font control panel persisted into Windows 2000, so I can't believe that we'll be rid of the trappings of more recent versions of Windows anytime soon.
ch0wn 14y ago
I got the same impression so far. Take the Metro Windows Update for example. It failed for for me repeatedly without giving any reason until I found the same functionality within the "classic" Control Center where I had to allow the system to reboot in order to install the updates. This is simply a horrible experience in every way.
- b0 14y ago
  I whinged about this to our partner rep who made some calls - apparently they fixed it for RTM. Whether or not that is bullshit or not, I don't know.
- cooldeal 14y ago
  >It failed for for me repeatedly without giving any reason until I found the same functionality within the "classic" Control Center where I had to allow the system to reboot in order to install the updates Wasn't this on the Beta product? Why is everyone talking as if it's on the RTM version?
  - GauntletWizard 14y ago
    Because when was the last time a Microsoft RTM version fixed any beta bugs?
    - yuhong 14y ago
      I would not go that far.
      - jlgreco 14y ago
        The point is that people are concerned about shortcomings in the beta because they do not have confidence in Microsoft to fix those problems. Whether that lack of confidence is justified or not is another matter.
        drivebyacct2 14y ago
        No, the point is the Release Preview has been out for a month (months?) and has fixed a lot of the issues that are being mentioned here.
  - ch0wn 14y ago
    This is just one example of a general flawed concept and certainly beyond the scope of a "bug" that could be fixed within a week or two. I don't think we'll see a unified experience until Windows 9.
ArcticCelt 14y ago
I also installed the preview to see how it works and after many frustrating experiences I now found the perfect way to use Windows 8 on my laptop. When it boots I immediately launch a remote session to my windows 7 desktop.

EvanAnderson 14y ago

I haven't looked at the release previews yet but I can only imagine. The antique-looking Windows 3.1 font control panel persisted into Windows 2000, so I can't believe that we'll be rid of the trappings of more recent versions of Windows anytime soon.

ch0wn 14y ago

I got the same impression so far. Take the Metro Windows Update for example. It failed for for me repeatedly without giving any reason until I found the same functionality within the "classic" Control Center where I had to allow the system to reboot in order to install the updates. This is simply a horrible experience in every way.

b0 14y ago
I whinged about this to our partner rep who made some calls - apparently they fixed it for RTM. Whether or not that is bullshit or not, I don't know.
cooldeal 14y ago
>It failed for for me repeatedly without giving any reason until I found the same functionality within the "classic" Control Center where I had to allow the system to reboot in order to install the updates Wasn't this on the Beta product? Why is everyone talking as if it's on the RTM version?
- GauntletWizard 14y ago
  Because when was the last time a Microsoft RTM version fixed any beta bugs?
  - yuhong 14y ago
    I would not go that far.
    - jlgreco 14y ago
      The point is that people are concerned about shortcomings in the beta because they do not have confidence in Microsoft to fix those problems. Whether that lack of confidence is justified or not is another matter.
      - drivebyacct2 14y ago
        No, the point is the Release Preview has been out for a month (months?) and has fixed a lot of the issues that are being mentioned here.
- ch0wn 14y ago
  This is just one example of a general flawed concept and certainly beyond the scope of a "bug" that could be fixed within a week or two. I don't think we'll see a unified experience until Windows 9.

ArcticCelt 14y ago

I also installed the preview to see how it works and after many frustrating experiences I now found the perfect way to use Windows 8 on my laptop. When it boots I immediately launch a remote session to my windows 7 desktop.