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Try to do something with a bank in a branch office. Clerk: can't do anything about it, the system doesn't let me. I can get you the manager. Branch manager: w
by TeMPOraL 2y ago
Try to do something with a bank in a branch office.
Clerk: can't do anything about it, the system doesn't let me. I can get you the manager.
Branch manager: well, I can't do anything about it, "the computer says no". Let me make a call to regional office ... (10 minutes of dialing and 30 minutes of conversation later) ... The system clearly says X, and the process is such that Y cannot be done before Z clears. Even the regional office can't speed Z up.
You: explains again why this is all bullshit, and Z shouldn't even be possible to be triggered for you
Branch manager: I can put a request with the bank's IT department to look into it, but they won't read it until at least tomorrow morning, and probably won't process it earlier than in a week or so.
At this point, you either give up or send your dispute to the central office via registered mail (and, depending on its nature, might want to retain a lawyer). Most customers who didn't give up earlier, will give up here.
Was the system wrong? Probably. Like everyone, banks too have bugs in the system, on top of a steady stream of human errors. Thanks to centralized IT systems, the low-level employees are quite literally unable to help you navigate weird "corner case" scenarios. The System is big, complicated, handles everything, no one except a small number of people is allowed to touch it, and those people are mostly techies and not bank management. In this setup, anyone can individually claim they're either powerless or not in the position to make those decisions, and keep redirecting you around from one department to another until you either get tired or threaten to sue.
- yencabulator 2y agoThe real difference is that automated decisions in bank software systems are risk mitigation failsafes, and only make "negative decisions", the kind that refuse something that the bank is at a liberty to refuse. So they never need to be held accountable in this sense, they never choose the risky path. Bank automation is like a human first making a "yes" decision, then calling a lawyer to ask if they should go ahead with it, and changing their mind if a lawyer advises not to go ahead. orig | auto | result no | n/a | no yes | yes | yes yes | no | no