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I have found that third-person games that involve a lot of looking up and down -- largely anything with crafting/building or picking up loot -- really hurts me.

I have found that third-person games that involve a lot of looking up and down -- largely anything with crafting/building or picking up loot -- really hurts me. On the other hand Death Stranding worked great -- largely because you don't have to angle the camera up and down to pick stuff up off the ground. I play a lot of first-person shooters and those usually don't give me any trouble.

roywiggins 2y ago
There's a moment in Firewatch (first person) where the character ducks under a tree or a fence or something and that's the moment I turned it off, because the camera lurches downward. Incredibly unpleasant. Also unplayable was Superliminal though that's not a huge surprise, considering the mechanic of the game. Outer Wilds was also a real tricky one.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  That sounds like a repeated animation when you exit the tower and duck under the platform (I played it recently); a main issue I have with that game is that at that point it takes over your control without any real reason other than adding in a custom flavour animation / transition of sorts. But first person games should avoid that imo, motion sickness aside. Outer Wilds I can definitely imagine, its warped perspective / scale / up/down/gravity will mess with your brain.
  - Triphibian 2y ago
    There's an animation in Sea of Thieves when you're digging for treasure that kills me. It is this huge up and down swing of the camera.
  - roywiggins 2y ago
    Yeah for Outer Wilds I don't know if there's anything to be done- it's just what the game is. Firewatch on the other hand could just... not do that, and it would be the same game.
  - DavidPiper 2y ago
    I was completely stunned that Outer Wilds didn't trigger motion sickness for me. Given my inconsistent history with so many other games, it makes me think that motion/simulation sickness must be a truly multi-variate accessibility problem where different specifics affect different people to different degrees.
conductr 2y ago
> I play a lot of first-person shooters and those usually don't give me any trouble. Could also be the “problem”, your eye muscles are weak in the up/down direction. You can do exercises to build it up

roywiggins 2y ago

There's a moment in Firewatch (first person) where the character ducks under a tree or a fence or something and that's the moment I turned it off, because the camera lurches downward. Incredibly unpleasant. Also unplayable was Superliminal though that's not a huge surprise, considering the mechanic of the game. Outer Wilds was also a real tricky one.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago
That sounds like a repeated animation when you exit the tower and duck under the platform (I played it recently); a main issue I have with that game is that at that point it takes over your control without any real reason other than adding in a custom flavour animation / transition of sorts. But first person games should avoid that imo, motion sickness aside. Outer Wilds I can definitely imagine, its warped perspective / scale / up/down/gravity will mess with your brain.
- Triphibian 2y ago
  There's an animation in Sea of Thieves when you're digging for treasure that kills me. It is this huge up and down swing of the camera.
- roywiggins 2y ago
  Yeah for Outer Wilds I don't know if there's anything to be done- it's just what the game is. Firewatch on the other hand could just... not do that, and it would be the same game.
- DavidPiper 2y ago
  I was completely stunned that Outer Wilds didn't trigger motion sickness for me. Given my inconsistent history with so many other games, it makes me think that motion/simulation sickness must be a truly multi-variate accessibility problem where different specifics affect different people to different degrees.

conductr 2y ago

> I play a lot of first-person shooters and those usually don't give me any trouble. Could also be the “problem”, your eye muscles are weak in the up/down direction. You can do exercises to build it up