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>I literally just quoted the poem You and I both know that this is not your first day on the Internet. Are you really claiming to be unfamiliar with the fact t

by TMWNN 2y ago

>I literally just quoted the poem You and I both know that this is not your first day on the Internet. Are you really claiming to be unfamiliar with the fact that that the poem's most frequent use online is as an all-size-fits-all riposte against any and all immigration enforcement? What pfannkuchen said, "So it’s quite weird to reference that poem as if America is in danger of losing some virtue it used to have back at that time", very well describes its typical usage.

pseudalopex 2y ago
Even quoting the poem with approval does not imply any belief about popular opinions when it was written. People quote the Declaration of Independence knowing it was written by a slave owner.
- TMWNN 2y ago
  The Declaration, and the Constitution, set out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. The Lazarus poem is, as I said, typically used in online debate as a universal cudgel. "By quoting this STUNNING AND BRAVE poem, I have 100% defeated your evil racist right-wing anti-migrant rhetoric! I don't have to provide the name of the author, the poem's name, the circumstances behind its writing, when and how it appeared on the pedestal, the standards every immigrant had to meet to pass through Ellis Island, or anything else! IT'S THAT POWERFUL!!!1!!!!!11"
  - pseudalopex 2y ago
    > The Declaration, and the Constitution, set out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. The poem sets out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. > The Lazarus poem is, as I said, typically used in online debate as a universal cudgel. "By quoting this STUNNING AND BRAVE poem, I have 100% defeated your evil racist right-wing anti-migrant rhetoric! I don't have to provide the name of the author, the poem's name, the circumstances behind its writing, when and how it appeared on the pedestal, the standards every immigrant had to meet to pass through Ellis Island, or anything else! IT'S THAT POWERFUL!!!1!!!!!11" The poem is famous. Most search engines are free. Are you equally histrionic when someone quotes the Declaration of Independence without title and author?

by TMWNN 2y ago

pseudalopex 2y ago

Even quoting the poem with approval does not imply any belief about popular opinions when it was written. People quote the Declaration of Independence knowing it was written by a slave owner.

TMWNN 2y ago
The Declaration, and the Constitution, set out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. The Lazarus poem is, as I said, typically used in online debate as a universal cudgel. "By quoting this STUNNING AND BRAVE poem, I have 100% defeated your evil racist right-wing anti-migrant rhetoric! I don't have to provide the name of the author, the poem's name, the circumstances behind its writing, when and how it appeared on the pedestal, the standards every immigrant had to meet to pass through Ellis Island, or anything else! IT'S THAT POWERFUL!!!1!!!!!11"
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  > The Declaration, and the Constitution, set out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. The poem sets out ideals and standards. That neither the country nor its citizens (including their authors) always live up to them does not invalidate their worthiness. > The Lazarus poem is, as I said, typically used in online debate as a universal cudgel. "By quoting this STUNNING AND BRAVE poem, I have 100% defeated your evil racist right-wing anti-migrant rhetoric! I don't have to provide the name of the author, the poem's name, the circumstances behind its writing, when and how it appeared on the pedestal, the standards every immigrant had to meet to pass through Ellis Island, or anything else! IT'S THAT POWERFUL!!!1!!!!!11" The poem is famous. Most search engines are free. Are you equally histrionic when someone quotes the Declaration of Independence without title and author?