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>enabled per language in Settings. Do they? I tried opening a French government site[1] and received the Firefox pop-up offering to translate the page. I did n

by e2le 2y ago

>enabled per language in Settings. Do they? I tried opening a French government site[1] and received the Firefox pop-up offering to translate the page. I did not have to enable anything in settings neither is the French language model downloaded. It seems translations are enabled by default. [1]: https://www.elysee.fr/ https://www.elysee.fr/

closewith 2y ago
I stand corrected on this point, the language packs now auto-download. It's still a niche feature only partially built by a Horizon project (it was almost entirely built by commercial entities - MS and Mozilla) in a niche browser. It's an indictment of the Horizon programme that this is considered the pre-eminent success story.
- VagabundoP 2y ago
  Its actually helped me a twice the last two weeks and I would browse mostly English language sites and I imagine it would be great if English wasn't your first language. I didn't even know it was a new Firefox feature but I thought it was cool. Well done EU.
- lxgr 2y ago
  You really can't win with some people. If the EU invests into research and development of a feature that a US tech company already offers (as a proprietary, closed-source service), it's needless duplication and a futile effort in catching up. Yet if it doesn't, that's admitting defeat in the face of competitors and the wrong move as well.
  - closewith 2y ago
    > If the EU invests into research and development of a feature that a US tech company already offers (as a proprietary, closed-source service), it's needless duplication and a futile effort in catching up. The example we're talking about is powered by a Marian, developed and open-sourced by a US multinational, Microsoft. The Horizon project was to use that to create a Firefox plugin, which they did. Another US multinational, Mozilla, later integrated into Firefox. Firefox has 4.55% market share in Europe. > Yet if it doesn't, that's admitting defeat in the face of competitors and the wrong move as well. You are presenting a false and frankly bad faith dichotomy.

by e2le 2y ago

closewith 2y ago

I stand corrected on this point, the language packs now auto-download. It's still a niche feature only partially built by a Horizon project (it was almost entirely built by commercial entities - MS and Mozilla) in a niche browser. It's an indictment of the Horizon programme that this is considered the pre-eminent success story.

VagabundoP 2y ago
Its actually helped me a twice the last two weeks and I would browse mostly English language sites and I imagine it would be great if English wasn't your first language. I didn't even know it was a new Firefox feature but I thought it was cool. Well done EU.
lxgr 2y ago
You really can't win with some people. If the EU invests into research and development of a feature that a US tech company already offers (as a proprietary, closed-source service), it's needless duplication and a futile effort in catching up. Yet if it doesn't, that's admitting defeat in the face of competitors and the wrong move as well.
- closewith 2y ago
  > If the EU invests into research and development of a feature that a US tech company already offers (as a proprietary, closed-source service), it's needless duplication and a futile effort in catching up. The example we're talking about is powered by a Marian, developed and open-sourced by a US multinational, Microsoft. The Horizon project was to use that to create a Firefox plugin, which they did. Another US multinational, Mozilla, later integrated into Firefox. Firefox has 4.55% market share in Europe. > Yet if it doesn't, that's admitting defeat in the face of competitors and the wrong move as well. You are presenting a false and frankly bad faith dichotomy.