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>They will still make the same airplanes, drones, radars tanks and whatever. Eventually there'll be fully autonomous drones and how competitive they'll be will

>They will still make the same airplanes, drones, radars tanks and whatever. Eventually there'll be fully autonomous drones and how competitive they'll be will be directly proportional to how fast they can react relative to enemy drones. All other things being equal, the country with faster microchips will have better combat drones.

saidinesh5 2y ago
> All other things being equal, the country with faster microchips will have better combat drones That's very unlikely imo. When it comes to drones.. no matter how fast your computation is, there are other bottlenecks like how fast the motors can spin up, how fast the sensor readings are, how much battery efficient they are etc... Right now the 8 bit ESCs are still as competitive as 32 bit ESC, a lot of the "follow me" tasks were using lot less computational power than what your typical smartphone these days offers...
- logicchains 2y ago
  Current drones are very limited compared to what they could do with a lot more processing power and future hardware developments. E.g. imagine a drone that could shoot a moving target hundreds of metres away in the wind, while it itself was moving very fast.
  - nolist_policy 2y ago
    Battleships could do that in the 1960s without any silicon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4 A drone moves faster, but I don't think that changes the calculations.
    - pjc50 2y ago
      The difficult bit for the drone is probably spotting the target. There doesn't seem to be a great interest in having (small) drones shoot things yet, all the current uses seem to be: - drone itself is the munition - drone is the spotter for other ground based artillery - drone dropping unguided munitions (e.g. grenades) "Large" drones (aircraft rather than quadcopter) seem to follow the same rules as manned aircraft and engage with guided or unguided munitions of their own. If the drone is cheap enough then "drone as munition" seems likely to win.
  - blacksmith_tb 2y ago
    Not that I am eager to see armed drones, but I would have thought recoil would be a hard problem for such a light vehicle?
05 2y ago
Alternatively, the country which has the biggest drone manufacturer in the world that can sell a $200 drone[0] capable of following a human using a single camera and sending the video in real time over 20 km using the same inhouse designed chipset both for AI control and video transmission [1] would probably win. [0] https://www.dji.com/neo https://www.dji.com/neo [1] https://fpvwiki.co.uk/dji-neo-fpv-drone https://fpvwiki.co.uk/dji-neo-fpv-drone

saidinesh5 2y ago

> All other things being equal, the country with faster microchips will have better combat drones That's very unlikely imo. When it comes to drones.. no matter how fast your computation is, there are other bottlenecks like how fast the motors can spin up, how fast the sensor readings are, how much battery efficient they are etc... Right now the 8 bit ESCs are still as competitive as 32 bit ESC, a lot of the "follow me" tasks were using lot less computational power than what your typical smartphone these days offers...

logicchains 2y ago
Current drones are very limited compared to what they could do with a lot more processing power and future hardware developments. E.g. imagine a drone that could shoot a moving target hundreds of metres away in the wind, while it itself was moving very fast.
- nolist_policy 2y ago
  Battleships could do that in the 1960s without any silicon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4 A drone moves faster, but I don't think that changes the calculations.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    The difficult bit for the drone is probably spotting the target. There doesn't seem to be a great interest in having (small) drones shoot things yet, all the current uses seem to be: - drone itself is the munition - drone is the spotter for other ground based artillery - drone dropping unguided munitions (e.g. grenades) "Large" drones (aircraft rather than quadcopter) seem to follow the same rules as manned aircraft and engage with guided or unguided munitions of their own. If the drone is cheap enough then "drone as munition" seems likely to win.
- blacksmith_tb 2y ago
  Not that I am eager to see armed drones, but I would have thought recoil would be a hard problem for such a light vehicle?

05 2y ago

Alternatively, the country which has the biggest drone manufacturer in the world that can sell a $200 drone[0] capable of following a human using a single camera and sending the video in real time over 20 km using the same inhouse designed chipset both for AI control and video transmission [1] would probably win. [0] https://www.dji.com/neo https://www.dji.com/neo [1] https://fpvwiki.co.uk/dji-neo-fpv-drone https://fpvwiki.co.uk/dji-neo-fpv-drone