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Yes I am certain that not everything El Salvador does is progressive, even before reading this link. Some people called Obama progressive and he definitely hel

Yes I am certain that not everything El Salvador does is progressive, even before reading this link. Some people called Obama progressive and he definitely helped destroy Libya and Syria, ordered the extrajudicial execution of a US citizen under presidential immunity, droned poor brown people living on the other side of the planet, let Citi group pick his cabinet, etc. Nevertheless, the progressive things that Obama did do were still progressive.

notthemessiah 2y ago
El Salvador is a gang-infested shithole because US interventionists backed those who would later lead gangs to stop a left-wing revolution. The Salvadoran government often targeted civilians, and massacred peaceful protestors. Then after the civil war, the same US-backed mercenaries and soldiers who had engaged in massacres and violence came back home, they employed the same terror techniques to build up the gangs and gain power for themselves, exploiting all the displaced peoples, especially the Lost Children of Central America who were kidnapped and raised in the gangs.
- aucisson_masque 2y ago
  What's your point? That's what the usa did to the entire south and middle America.
- starspangled 2y ago
  > El Salvador is a gang-infested shithole Far less so now, because they refused to listen to the dogma preached from these experts and institutions (significantly coming from those associated with or funded by the US), about how they should run their country.
rat87 2y ago
Let's be 100% clear on this Assad and Ghadaffi destroyed Syria and Lybia respectively being asshole dictators that caused revolutions and that attempted to stay in power by claiming over mountains of dead Syrians and Lybians. The west didn't interfere much in Syria so Assad was able to stay in power a while longer and kill many more of his own citizens. The west messed up the post revolution period but letting Gaddafi do what he wanted would have lead to a worse situation
- starspangled 2y ago
  Let me be clear, folks. Lots of people contributed to their destruction, and Obama was one of them. One of the major players involved in those messes.

notthemessiah 2y ago

El Salvador is a gang-infested shithole because US interventionists backed those who would later lead gangs to stop a left-wing revolution. The Salvadoran government often targeted civilians, and massacred peaceful protestors. Then after the civil war, the same US-backed mercenaries and soldiers who had engaged in massacres and violence came back home, they employed the same terror techniques to build up the gangs and gain power for themselves, exploiting all the displaced peoples, especially the Lost Children of Central America who were kidnapped and raised in the gangs.

aucisson_masque 2y ago
What's your point? That's what the usa did to the entire south and middle America.
starspangled 2y ago
> El Salvador is a gang-infested shithole Far less so now, because they refused to listen to the dogma preached from these experts and institutions (significantly coming from those associated with or funded by the US), about how they should run their country.

rat87 2y ago

Let's be 100% clear on this Assad and Ghadaffi destroyed Syria and Lybia respectively being asshole dictators that caused revolutions and that attempted to stay in power by claiming over mountains of dead Syrians and Lybians. The west didn't interfere much in Syria so Assad was able to stay in power a while longer and kill many more of his own citizens. The west messed up the post revolution period but letting Gaddafi do what he wanted would have lead to a worse situation

starspangled 2y ago
Let me be clear, folks. Lots of people contributed to their destruction, and Obama was one of them. One of the major players involved in those messes.