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Gittip minimum raised from $0.25 to $1.00
- whit537 14y agoGittip is a site for micro-subscriptions to fund open source developers. I got a lot of feedback this week on HN and GitHub that the minimum subscription should be raised from $0.25 to $1.00: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/180 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/180 I rolled that out today, so if you wanted it, go use it. :^) https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html
- thaumaturgy 14y agome.html is giving me a 302 redirect to the home page. Am I missing something?
- whit537 14y agoIf you're already authenticated then it redirects to your profile page.
- whit537 14y agoOkay, should give you a message now if you're anon. https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html
- thaumaturgy 14y agoNice, that's a little less confusing. :-) Just as a heads-up: Google "gittip minimum raised from" or search Twitter for the same (http://twitter.com/#!/search/gittip%20minimum%20raised%20from http://twitter.com/#!/search/gittip%20minimum%20raised%20fro...) ... there's a collective audience of tens of thousands of people, any of whom could be seeing Gittip for the first time from this submission. Linking to a blog post, even a very brief one, might be better for picking up new interest in the future. I feel like I'm being a pain in the ass between this and yesterday's grousing over needing a Github account. Sorry about that.
- whit537 14y agoIf you're a pain in the ass then I'm sittin' on sunshine. Definitely could do a better job of converting traffic. Don't feel like I have that nailed yet. :-/
- john-n 14y agoJust my 2 cents, but I did not/do not know what gittip is. The above link invites me to sign in using github, I'm extremely cautious of logging in using github anywhere as my personal account is also my work account. Any page where I can land and be asked to log in should do a better job of saying what you do, especially where trust is involved.
- whit537 14y agoThanks for feeding back. I'll try to do better next time.
- Cogito 14y agoJust to add my 2c, a blog post on this and the reasons behind it are a really good idea. As soon as I saw 'log in' I immediately returned to HN comments to find out what was going on. Many people won't have that luxury, or patience.
- whit537 14y agoThanks for pushing through. I'll be more careful next time.
- catshirt 14y agoapologies for soliciting on hn, but i couldn't find a support line through the site. must donations be recurring? why can't send one-off donations? also, at the risk of sounding vein, must the donations be anonymous? these things are keeping me from giving my money to people.
- whit537 14y agoGittip is designed to pay the mortgage for donees, and mortgages are recurring. I expect we'll mix in one-offs eventually. Here's the ticket for that: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/5 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/5 Donations are anonymous in the particulars but public in aggregate on the homepage by default.
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoThere is a way to cancel later right? I mean, even if you intend to give every week... eventually there will come a time where a person will need to stop doing that. We've all fell on hard times at one point or another and forced to make cut backs. Unfortunately, that often means being less "charitable". If you can't turn off a recurring donation, then that just upped the giver's commitment level from "chicken" to "pig". If you can turn off a recurring donation, then at least there is a work around for much shorter runs, like... 1 week. :)
- whit537 14y agoYou can set individual gifts to zero. They're collected together on your profile page: https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html https://www.gittip.com/about/me.html You can also turn off gifts entirely without actually forgetting them by deleting your credit card: https://www.gittip.com/credit-card.html https://www.gittip.com/credit-card.html Is that satisfactory?
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoThanks. So it seems that if a person wanted to just give once, there is a series of steps involved that would allow them to do that in a roundabout way. Maybe that is using Gittip in a way not intended, but it would satisfy the OP's need of a one time gift option.
- aliguori 14y agoI know this sounds lazy, but it would be really nice to stream line the process of 1) Finding a project 2) Getting a list of the top contributors to a project. For instance, I'd love to go to a site like this and give $100 to whoever is the most active contributor in glib who is accepting contributions. I generally don't know people's github account names. Digging it up is a pain.
- whit537 14y agoAgreed. Working on it: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/27 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/27
- DASD 14y agoI like the speed that you're implementing feedback and new features. I was curious about your payment processor since you're working as a marketstyle service. For reference on a project I'm working on, were there any hurdles to getting such an account? Also, how do you plan to handle chargebacks?
- jasonz 14y agohe's using https://www.balancedpayments.com/ https://www.balancedpayments.com/
- zcvosdfdgj 14y agohopefully the site will grow larger and he'll change that. They're taking about 1/3rd more than if he opened a real merchant account.
- DASD 14y agoInteresting. I went out to the balancedpayments site to see who they are. Absolutely no information. Am I not seeing a link somewhere on their page? The fact that they are using Godaddy as an SSL certificate provider/reseller and the certificate says run by "unknown" just makes me cringe. Edit: Apparently there are some staff bios on the Community Page. Founded 2010. Is anyone familiar with other start-ups using them as well?
- zcvosdfdgj 14y agothe certificate says run by "unknown" just makes me cringe. It says that because it is not an EV SSL certificate. go to amazon if you want to see the same message, but from a verisign (non EV) cert.
- DASD 14y agoThanks. I'm curious why more processors aren't using an EV certificate for all their pages such as what WEPAY appears to be doing.
- pyoung 14y agoSo to start, I am not a target user of this site (at least at the moment), as I am not very active on github and I don't follow open source projects very closely. With that said, I have followed these discussions, and I think this may be the wrong approach. I think that you should implement a balance transfer feature. This would prevent a lot of the money from getting eaten up by processing fees. Once that is implemented, you should just leave the amount up to the user, no mins, no maxes. If someone thinks that $0.25/wk is too small, then they are free to tip more. But at $0.25/wk, that comes out to $13/yr. At $1/wk, that is $52/yr. I am a man of modest, yet comfortable means, and giving some people ~$10/yr to support their cause is well within my discretionary budget, but at ~$50/yr, that starts setting off my internal 'frugal' alarms, especially if I want to donate to more than one project.
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- whit537 14y agoThere's a distinction between truly supporting a person, and being part of a long tail of "oh well here's a few cents." I see us trying to feel out how to work with those two cases. My current thinking is that the long tail of support for an individual will come via their association with various projects, groups, companies, brands--whatever we want to call them. Here's the ticket where we're tracking this: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/27 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/27
- femto 14y agoI've written down my experience of tipping in Australia, as an illustration that the word "tipping" has different connotations in different cultures. Historically, Australians don't tip. During much of the the 20th century Australia had quite a strong (relative to the US) tradition of socialism and unionism, resulting in a strong set of minimum employment conditions. There was very much a view that a decent living wage was an entitlement and a matter of dignity, not something that a worker should have to stoop to collect. People didn't tip, since the common perception was that the potential tipee was as equally entitled to a minimum wage as the potential tipper. Indeed, I'd say that people actively didn't tip as an act of homage to equality. Tipping is probably more common today than in the past, and the above is being eroded, but I think the above is still generally true. A tip is rarely expected, or let on to be expected, as that is a sure fire way not to get a tip. I mention the above, in the supposition that it has connotations for a site like gittip that liberally uses the word "tipping". Some cultures don't do tipping. As an Australian, I'd be more inclined if the idea of compensation was being sold on a "equity" (as in fairness) basis rather than a giving basis. I know it's semantics, but semantics does influence decisions. I hope the above is constructive.
- whit537 14y agoLove it, thank you. Noted here: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/138 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/138
- secoif 14y agoThe American "I am obliged to give you a tip because minimum wage sucks" doesn't seem to be what gittip is about. In fact, it's much closer to the Australian idea "I am giving you more money because of your impressive performance, and I want to say thanks". In Australia, I tip when service is awesome. In America, I tip when service isn't absolutely terrible. Full disclosure: I am Australian
- adrianwaj 14y agoGittip is well suited to use bitcoin (I even saw it mentioned a few times in issues https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/search?q=bitcoin https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/search?q=bi... ), bitcoiners can even fund that feature.
- whit537 14y agoHere's the main ticket: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/14 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/14 Basically I'm open to it if the bitcoin are transparently converted to dollars. Code talks. ;-)