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There was zero real prospect of that occurring, especially with broad agreement across the aisle that Trump lost. It was a protest that got out of hand. Those

There was zero real prospect of that occurring, especially with broad agreement across the aisle that Trump lost. It was a protest that got out of hand. Those who committed violence deserved custodial sentences, but the rest who were mere trespassers never should have seen the inside of a jail cell.

jeremyjh 2y ago
Right. So treason is fine as long as you are fucking clown about it?
- PixyMisa 2y ago
  The total number of people charged with, much less convicted of treason, is zero.
  - bagels 2y ago
    Seditious conspiracy is pretty close, but also, Biden dropped the ball on prosecuting. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/proud-boys-leader-sentenced-22-years-prison-seditious-conspiracy-and-other-charges-related https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/proud-boys-leader-sentenced-2... "To prepare for the attack on the Capitol, Tarrio and the other leaders of the Ministry of Self Defense established a chain of command, chose a time and place for their attack, and intentionally recruited others who would follow their top-down leadership and who were prepared to engage in physical violence if necessary."
Goronmon 2y ago
There was zero real prospect of that occurring, especially with broad agreement across the aisle that Trump lost. I mean, there was a whole plan around certifying the results of the election and it's not entirely clear how many people would have gone along with it if things had gone just a little bit different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
hackyhacky 2y ago
> It was a protest that got out of hand. I agree that Jan 6 was not that big a deal. However, Jan 6 was just one part of a larger, nearly successful conspiracy to overturn the election. The conspiracy included pressuring the Vice President to exceed his authority; fraudulent electors; and extorting false claims of fraud from states.
- zmgsabst 2y ago
  Yeah - they should’ve just had a court overturn it like Romania!
- bogomog 2y ago
  How is not a big deal that a few thousand citizens were various levels of conscious and unconscious participants in an organized coup attempt?
  - scarab92 2y ago
    Explain Trump getting re-elected in 2024. As on-the-nose as the Democrats are, I don't think that would have been possible if the public thought he orchestrated a serious attempt at a coup.
    - hackyhacky 2y ago
      The public are misled, thanks to omnipresent right-leaning media and increasingly hard-to-penetrate echo chambers. In the immediate aftermath of Jan 6, even his fellow republicans called it a coup, until they changed their minds for political expediency.
      - bogomog 2y ago
        Exactly. And a certain amount of maga are still in favor of a coup, and then a certain amount of blissfully ignorant new voters.
suzzer99 2y ago
This is just willful ignorance. See the links others have posted.
altcognito 2y ago
Oh yeah, if you erase the fake electors, and the entire scheme by the presidents men to overturn the results, you can pretend that
intended 2y ago
Absolutely. This is how it was during Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Biden. There’s always a protest. It’s totally a normal part of the past half century plus of the peaceful transition of power. People get together on DC to help the outgoing president threaten and scare congress, to see if they change the way the election is called. It’s just one of those things that people do to see if America is actually strong, and if congress folds, well you know you need a new congress. Its tradition! Its like a hazing!

jeremyjh 2y ago

Right. So treason is fine as long as you are fucking clown about it?

PixyMisa 2y ago
The total number of people charged with, much less convicted of treason, is zero.
- bagels 2y ago
  Seditious conspiracy is pretty close, but also, Biden dropped the ball on prosecuting. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/proud-boys-leader-sentenced-22-years-prison-seditious-conspiracy-and-other-charges-related https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/proud-boys-leader-sentenced-2... "To prepare for the attack on the Capitol, Tarrio and the other leaders of the Ministry of Self Defense established a chain of command, chose a time and place for their attack, and intentionally recruited others who would follow their top-down leadership and who were prepared to engage in physical violence if necessary."

Goronmon 2y ago

There was zero real prospect of that occurring, especially with broad agreement across the aisle that Trump lost. I mean, there was a whole plan around certifying the results of the election and it's not entirely clear how many people would have gone along with it if things had gone just a little bit different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

hackyhacky 2y ago

> It was a protest that got out of hand. I agree that Jan 6 was not that big a deal. However, Jan 6 was just one part of a larger, nearly successful conspiracy to overturn the election. The conspiracy included pressuring the Vice President to exceed his authority; fraudulent electors; and extorting false claims of fraud from states.

zmgsabst 2y ago
Yeah - they should’ve just had a court overturn it like Romania!
bogomog 2y ago
How is not a big deal that a few thousand citizens were various levels of conscious and unconscious participants in an organized coup attempt?
- scarab92 2y ago
  Explain Trump getting re-elected in 2024. As on-the-nose as the Democrats are, I don't think that would have been possible if the public thought he orchestrated a serious attempt at a coup.
  - hackyhacky 2y ago
    The public are misled, thanks to omnipresent right-leaning media and increasingly hard-to-penetrate echo chambers. In the immediate aftermath of Jan 6, even his fellow republicans called it a coup, until they changed their minds for political expediency.
    - bogomog 2y ago
      Exactly. And a certain amount of maga are still in favor of a coup, and then a certain amount of blissfully ignorant new voters.

suzzer99 2y ago

This is just willful ignorance. See the links others have posted.

altcognito 2y ago

Oh yeah, if you erase the fake electors, and the entire scheme by the presidents men to overturn the results, you can pretend that

intended 2y ago

Absolutely. This is how it was during Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Biden. There’s always a protest. It’s totally a normal part of the past half century plus of the peaceful transition of power. People get together on DC to help the outgoing president threaten and scare congress, to see if they change the way the election is called. It’s just one of those things that people do to see if America is actually strong, and if congress folds, well you know you need a new congress. Its tradition! Its like a hazing!