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Increased prosperity, intelligent leadership and lawful order? I'll take it!

arunabha 2y ago
I guess time will tell if you're right. I hope you're right, because if not, we are in for very dark times.
tombert 2y ago
Ok, so you stalked my comment history so I stalked yours. What about the Trump administration is "intelligent"? Trump lies about everything. Pointing out other politicians lie isn't a good comeback. Trump lacks all understanding of how tariffs work, he said he was going to "repeal and replace" Obamacare on "day 1" in 2016, only to say he has "concepts of a plan" in 2024, whatever the fuck that means. He rarely has "ideas", he just bitches about stuff and handwaves away everything when pressed for any details. "Lawful order"? I don't know that that means. I would say that writing a lot of executive orders that go directly against the constitution is literally the opposite of "lawful order", but you're free to disagree.
- theonething 2y ago
  Deporting all these violent illegals has been outstanding in my opinion. He's actually enforcing existing immigration laws. By way of threats of tariffs, He's gotten Columbia, Mexico and Canada to enact policies in the interests of America. America gets constantly screwed by other nations because we've allowed great trade imbalances and weak borders. Other nations have been happy to step back and let the US fund the UN, NATO, etc. Historically, we have the lowest tariffs and accept the most illegal immigrants in the world. Trump's changing that and I'm here for it. Btw, I'm all for legal immigration. I'm one myself. My family escaped a communist country and has experienced life under a leader much more authoritarian that what the Left conjures up about the other side.
  - tombert 2y ago
    Deporting violent immigrants is fine. Biden enforced immigration laws too, and when there was a bipartisan immigration reform bill Trump asked the conservatives to block it. Trying to revoke birthright citizenship is not “enforcing existing law”. The concessions from Mexico and Canada were already planned from last administration. Moreover, now there are retaliatory tariffs coming from them. How does a trade imbalance imply that we are “screwed”? Trump repeats that constantly but it doesn’t seem implied to me. The stuff about NATO is a lot more complicated than you’re making it out to be. This is my biggest issue with Trump and his supporters, they treat everything as this incredibly reductive, black and white, “simple” issue.
    - theonething 2y ago
      > Biden enforced immigration laws too, No he did not. Biden's first acts were to repeal Trump's stringent immigration orders. After 3 and half years with another election looming and seeing the disaster that caused, all of the sudden, his administration wasn't so hot on open borders anymore. If he enforced immigration laws, we wouldn't have so many people who have illegally entered the country. > Trying to revoke birthright citizenship is not “enforcing existing law”. And I never claimed that. But I support an amendment towards that end. > The concessions from Mexico and Canada were already planned from last administration. Nope, the 10,000 troops Mexico just agreed to is on top of whatever other things they "promised" to do. And tariffs are off the table for now. > Moreover, now there are retaliatory tariffs coming from them. Nope, no tariffs have been enacted on either side at the moment. > How does a trade imbalance imply that we are “screwed”? US trade imbalance by year: 2020: $626 billion 2021: $858 billion 2022: $971 billion 2023: $1 trillion We also have historically the lowest tariff rates in the world. Gee, I wonder if that's related. And then when we raise them to level the playing field, everyone bitches and whines. > The stuff about NATO is a lot more complicated than you’re making it out to be. > This is my biggest issue with Trump and his supporters, they treat everything as this incredibly reductive, black and white, “simple” issue. Pretty hand wavy there. My issue with liberals is the lack of common sense, e.g. allowing biological men to destroy women in sports, not being willing to define what a woman is, getting mad at Trump for enforcing immigration laws (i.e. not letting people enter the country illegally and kicking out those who do)

I guess time will tell if you're right. I hope you're right, because if not, we are in for very dark times.

Ok, so you stalked my comment history so I stalked yours. What about the Trump administration is "intelligent"? Trump lies about everything. Pointing out other politicians lie isn't a good comeback. Trump lacks all understanding of how tariffs work, he said he was going to "repeal and replace" Obamacare on "day 1" in 2016, only to say he has "concepts of a plan" in 2024, whatever the fuck that means. He rarely has "ideas", he just bitches about stuff and handwaves away everything when pressed for any details. "Lawful order"? I don't know that that means. I would say that writing a lot of executive orders that go directly against the constitution is literally the opposite of "lawful order", but you're free to disagree.

theonething 2y ago
Deporting all these violent illegals has been outstanding in my opinion. He's actually enforcing existing immigration laws. By way of threats of tariffs, He's gotten Columbia, Mexico and Canada to enact policies in the interests of America. America gets constantly screwed by other nations because we've allowed great trade imbalances and weak borders. Other nations have been happy to step back and let the US fund the UN, NATO, etc. Historically, we have the lowest tariffs and accept the most illegal immigrants in the world. Trump's changing that and I'm here for it. Btw, I'm all for legal immigration. I'm one myself. My family escaped a communist country and has experienced life under a leader much more authoritarian that what the Left conjures up about the other side.
- tombert 2y ago
  Deporting violent immigrants is fine. Biden enforced immigration laws too, and when there was a bipartisan immigration reform bill Trump asked the conservatives to block it. Trying to revoke birthright citizenship is not “enforcing existing law”. The concessions from Mexico and Canada were already planned from last administration. Moreover, now there are retaliatory tariffs coming from them. How does a trade imbalance imply that we are “screwed”? Trump repeats that constantly but it doesn’t seem implied to me. The stuff about NATO is a lot more complicated than you’re making it out to be. This is my biggest issue with Trump and his supporters, they treat everything as this incredibly reductive, black and white, “simple” issue.
  - theonething 2y ago
    > Biden enforced immigration laws too, No he did not. Biden's first acts were to repeal Trump's stringent immigration orders. After 3 and half years with another election looming and seeing the disaster that caused, all of the sudden, his administration wasn't so hot on open borders anymore. If he enforced immigration laws, we wouldn't have so many people who have illegally entered the country. > Trying to revoke birthright citizenship is not “enforcing existing law”. And I never claimed that. But I support an amendment towards that end. > The concessions from Mexico and Canada were already planned from last administration. Nope, the 10,000 troops Mexico just agreed to is on top of whatever other things they "promised" to do. And tariffs are off the table for now. > Moreover, now there are retaliatory tariffs coming from them. Nope, no tariffs have been enacted on either side at the moment. > How does a trade imbalance imply that we are “screwed”? US trade imbalance by year: 2020: $626 billion 2021: $858 billion 2022: $971 billion 2023: $1 trillion We also have historically the lowest tariff rates in the world. Gee, I wonder if that's related. And then when we raise them to level the playing field, everyone bitches and whines. > The stuff about NATO is a lot more complicated than you’re making it out to be. > This is my biggest issue with Trump and his supporters, they treat everything as this incredibly reductive, black and white, “simple” issue. Pretty hand wavy there. My issue with liberals is the lack of common sense, e.g. allowing biological men to destroy women in sports, not being willing to define what a woman is, getting mad at Trump for enforcing immigration laws (i.e. not letting people enter the country illegally and kicking out those who do)