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camillomiller 2y ago
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- sepositus 2y ago
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    https://www.theverge.com/politics/605609/musk-trump-doge-takeover-crisis https://www.theverge.com/politics/605609/musk-trump-doge-tak...
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    - theonething 2y ago
      > It’s impossible to make a point with people like you What a coincidence! I think exactly the same about you!
      - dang 2y ago
        Please don't cross into personal attack yourself, regardless of what other commenters are doing, and please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 2y ago
      Personal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Please don't post like this, and please stop perpetuating flamewars on HN. The guidelines say: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." Since this topic is as divisive as it gets, so your comments on it should be at maximum thoughtfulness and substantiveness right now. Edit: we've unfortunately had to warn you about this many times - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40779071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40779071. If you want to keep posting here, please fix this.
      - camillomiller 2y ago
        Dang, as much as I understand the point, what's happening is of the utmost gravity, and ignoring it or pretending that these people can be reasoned with is like giving them a free pass. Especially explicitly trolls account like the one attacking me first. I am certainly passionate about the topic maybe more than average, and I'm certainly more political than what this community might want to be. Nonetheless, my name is out there and I'm not really hiding or trolling, just expressing strong views. I understand and respect that HN thinks this won't lead to good conversations, and will just try to avoid the blood-boiling responses.
  - dang 2y ago
    Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with (such as for ideological battle). We ban such accounts and it will eventually get your main account banned as well. Also, please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - sepositus 2y ago
      The person I responded to asked an honest question, and I gave an honest answer. You can feed the entirety of HN into AI, and it would come to the same conclusion: it's not a secret. But I wasn't aware that ideological battle is off-limits. It seems like every thread is full of it, so it's hard to walk away with that impression. The reason for a separate account is because proposing ideas that don't fit the HN mainstream can result in people trying to track you down and "punish" you for having opposing views. Unfortunate, but that's where the world is.
      - dang 2y ago
        > It seems like every thread is full of it That's far from the case, and keeping things that way is critical to HN's future. Even now, when we're at a high-water mark because of the political externalities, it's far from the case. It may be the case that people inclined to do ideological battle on the internet are more likely to overestimate its presence, simply because that's where their attention goes.

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camillomiller 2y ago

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- camillomiller 2y ago
  https://www.theverge.com/politics/605609/musk-trump-doge-takeover-crisis https://www.theverge.com/politics/605609/musk-trump-doge-tak...
- camillomiller 2y ago
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  - theonething 2y ago
    > It’s impossible to make a point with people like you What a coincidence! I think exactly the same about you!
    - dang 2y ago
      Please don't cross into personal attack yourself, regardless of what other commenters are doing, and please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 2y ago
    Personal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Please don't post like this, and please stop perpetuating flamewars on HN. The guidelines say: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." Since this topic is as divisive as it gets, so your comments on it should be at maximum thoughtfulness and substantiveness right now. Edit: we've unfortunately had to warn you about this many times - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40779071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40779071. If you want to keep posting here, please fix this.
    - camillomiller 2y ago
      Dang, as much as I understand the point, what's happening is of the utmost gravity, and ignoring it or pretending that these people can be reasoned with is like giving them a free pass. Especially explicitly trolls account like the one attacking me first. I am certainly passionate about the topic maybe more than average, and I'm certainly more political than what this community might want to be. Nonetheless, my name is out there and I'm not really hiding or trolling, just expressing strong views. I understand and respect that HN thinks this won't lead to good conversations, and will just try to avoid the blood-boiling responses.
- dang 2y ago
  Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with (such as for ideological battle). We ban such accounts and it will eventually get your main account banned as well. Also, please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - sepositus 2y ago
    The person I responded to asked an honest question, and I gave an honest answer. You can feed the entirety of HN into AI, and it would come to the same conclusion: it's not a secret. But I wasn't aware that ideological battle is off-limits. It seems like every thread is full of it, so it's hard to walk away with that impression. The reason for a separate account is because proposing ideas that don't fit the HN mainstream can result in people trying to track you down and "punish" you for having opposing views. Unfortunate, but that's where the world is.
    - dang 2y ago
      > It seems like every thread is full of it That's far from the case, and keeping things that way is critical to HN's future. Even now, when we're at a high-water mark because of the political externalities, it's far from the case. It may be the case that people inclined to do ideological battle on the internet are more likely to overestimate its presence, simply because that's where their attention goes.