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Ha! That's great. The opposite of that play is: Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility. We shall reduce govt spending by running se

Ha! That's great. The opposite of that play is: Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility. We shall reduce govt spending by running services into the ground. Voted-in Libs: We were voted in to undo all this f*kery... gotta spend those $$$ Conservatives: Didn't we say you can't trust those libs with the $$$? For the record - I think society needs both parties alternating in power to function properly. Either one in power forever is a mistake

AdieuToLogic 2y ago
What you describe is the insidious effect of repetitive use of the "Two Santas" strategy: > Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility. Conservatives are provably not. See[0]. > Voted-in Libs: We were voted in to undo all this f*kery... gotta spend those $$$ This is a common misperception, fostered in large part by the effectivity of the "Two Santas" political strategy. 0 - https://www.investopedia.com/us-national-debt-by-year-7499291 https://www.investopedia.com/us-national-debt-by-year-749929...
- rukuu001 2y ago
  Oh I very much agree the cons are bad at money. Just talking about what they say.
dgb23 2y ago
Except that is inaccurate. With the exception of the Biden admin, Republicans have been increasing the national debt at a _much_ higher rate. Both private and public dept have been rising rapidly since the 70/80's and the introduction of neoliberal policies. Real wages have stagnated, so Americans go into debt. Tax cuts for the rich, so the US has to borrow.
- rukuu001 2y ago
  Yes I agree with that. I’m just talking about what they say rather than reality. I’d have edited for clarity but I missed the window.
- blitzar 2y ago
  > With the exception of the Biden admin The last year in office Trump was spending $8 trillion a year and Biden left office spending $6.7 trillion.
  - dgb23 2y ago
    Yes, but it would be dishonest to claim that only Republican admins drastically increased the deficit. Biden is an exception. I’m not comparing him to Trump either.

AdieuToLogic 2y ago

What you describe is the insidious effect of repetitive use of the "Two Santas" strategy: > Voted-in Conservatives: we are the party of fiscal responsibility. Conservatives are provably not. See[0]. > Voted-in Libs: We were voted in to undo all this f*kery... gotta spend those $$$ This is a common misperception, fostered in large part by the effectivity of the "Two Santas" political strategy. 0 - https://www.investopedia.com/us-national-debt-by-year-7499291 https://www.investopedia.com/us-national-debt-by-year-749929...

rukuu001 2y ago
Oh I very much agree the cons are bad at money. Just talking about what they say.

dgb23 2y ago

Except that is inaccurate. With the exception of the Biden admin, Republicans have been increasing the national debt at a _much_ higher rate. Both private and public dept have been rising rapidly since the 70/80's and the introduction of neoliberal policies. Real wages have stagnated, so Americans go into debt. Tax cuts for the rich, so the US has to borrow.

rukuu001 2y ago
Yes I agree with that. I’m just talking about what they say rather than reality. I’d have edited for clarity but I missed the window.
blitzar 2y ago
> With the exception of the Biden admin The last year in office Trump was spending $8 trillion a year and Biden left office spending $6.7 trillion.
- dgb23 2y ago
  Yes, but it would be dishonest to claim that only Republican admins drastically increased the deficit. Biden is an exception. I’m not comparing him to Trump either.