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Surely nobody sees this as a bad thing. It’s been a bit since these events happened.
by dgfitz 2y ago
Surely nobody sees this as a bad thing. It’s been a bit since these events happened.
- bko 2y ago[flagged]
- IAmNotACellist 2y agoI can think of a few agencies that might be sweating. Or maybe it'll come out that it really was just a random nutjob. Or they'll redact something and conspiracy theorists will forever say that the crucial piece of evidence is contained under the last remaining Sharpie ink
- sirbutters 2y agoBullseye. That's exactly what will happen. They have much more to gain by keeping some of the mystery. If they hand out a black and white explanation they have 1 less leverage to manipulate the mass.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoHeck, it doesn't matter even if there are zero redactions. I saw a good cartoon along these lines: Trump agrees with the need to release any and all info about the JFK assassinations, which shows that all the evidence points to Oswald being the lone killer. The conspiracy theorist responds "This goes deeper than we thought..." I'm all for releasing all the known evidence about the case, but a large swath of people will never be satisfied unless they hear exactly what they want to hear. There are still a sizable number of people who think the Moon landings were faked, despite all evidence to the contrary.
- ethbr1 2y agoWe can also just say flat earthers exist. That equally proves the point.
- rat87 2y agoWe know who it was We have known for decades https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald Just because the government messed up the first investigation in a rush doesn't change the fact that they came to the correct conclusion as the following decades has shown. It's possible there's something embarrassing to the fbi in those files but it wouldn't be assassination of prominent figures
- RajT88 2y agoI am sure it makes some TLA look bad. I fully expect to not have everything released.
- addicted 2y agoThe FBI. The FBI was out for MLK. In his first term Trump liked the FBI so he allowed them to redact the JFK files he was legally supposed to release to the public. But in 2025 they’re his bogey man so releasing it so Kash Patel has an even easier time remolding it in his image makes a lot of sense.
- RajT88 2y agoYeah, I mean. Given what is known about the FBI and MLK how much worse could it get? Fun fact: there is a statue of MLK at the FBI academy in Quantico.
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- lazystar 2y agodoes the FBI have anything memorializing Ernest Hemmingway as well? That'd certainly be ironic.
- JohnBooty 2y agoI don't think the majority of the public is aware of the extremely devious stuff the FBI has done w.r.t. civil rights leaders etc. Even if nothing substantively new is released it gives him a chance to rant about the FBI as part of his mission to seize power and discredit the "deep state" while cosplaying as a supporter of truth, justice, people of color, etc.
- skissane 2y agoIf the FBI had really done it, I doubt they would have left classified records saying they had. Most likely, either the records would have been destroyed long ago, or they never would have created any in the first place Other possibility: they really didn’t do it, but there’s some classified record which sure makes it sound like they did. e.g. some record of J. Edgar Hoover joking about doing it
- addicted 2y agoAgreed. Trump should never have allowed the redaction of rhe JFK files in 2017 when he was legally bound to release them In the first place.
- stevenwoo 2y agoDuring his first term, Trump was the one who stopped all the records from being released automatically. This is his MO, to claim as victory something that would have happened without him opening his mouth in the first place.
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- blkhawk 2y agoMaybe its truly a nothing-burger. even if released uncensored the most salient information would be details about how the secret service deployed and what they did wrong? Personally I think that is probably the most likely thing that would be still considered classified even if the details are completely obvious. I mean most classified information is classified because its classified. By that I mean it is classified because nobody declassified it. That gets you hilarious press conferences like that navy UFO thing in trumps last term where the spokesperson could only say "the US does not have the technology to build a flying object like this" (paraphrased from memory). I am pretty sure an analyst looked at the footage and identified a sea-bird and the US does not have the technology to build a bird exactly. But analyst output is automatically classified so.....
- Jtsummers 2y ago> in between democrats were in power they didn't release That's not true. Biden did release more files during his term: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/us/politics/biden-jfk-assassination-papers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/us/politics/biden-jfk-ass...
- djha-skin 2y agoThis might make sense if the MLK and RFK assassinations weren't also being disclosed, and that without any act of congress.
- alchemist1e9 2y agoMossad and CIA might have a different take … some people say.
- recursivedoubts 2y agolet’s get this party started
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- LastTrain 2y agoNope, not a bad thing, but I'm still waiting on the sasquatch files.
- iancmceachern 2y agoWhile you wait check out "Saxsquatch" on YouTube, he's currently on a North American tour. I can't wait to see him!
- barbazoo 2y agoYou’ll get those when they release the UFOs.
- petee 2y agoI think its good, but humorously waiting for the conspiracists to shift the goal posts so we can spend the next 50 years talking about the "documents the fed shredded"
- DaSHacka 2y agoIs it really shifting the goal posts if we have evidence it really happens?
- petee 2y agoYou mean the fact that shredding as an action exists? Or specifically that the fed shredded JFK docs? Its shifting the goal posts when the call has to been release all the documents, and when they do just that, saying it wasnt in fact all the documents...it would be impossible to have evidence of it, or verify it. Just unsubstantiated claims, but thats enough for some
- blitzar 2y agoReminds me of the flat earth experiments to prove the definitive truth that prove the earth is spherical and thus prove that the deep state manipulated the experiment which acts only to strengthen their resolve to get to the "real" truth.
- petee 2y agoIt got better recently if you've seen the fall out from the trip to the Antartic; the flerfs completely turned on their top-tier streamers when they observed that the sun does in fact stay in the sky 24hrs a day: green screen, video walls, planted gov agents, sound stages, claims of "see i always said they'd actually be a shill" Very funny watching flerfs realize other flerfs arent actually willing to look at real evidence without making it a conspiracy.
- kelnos 2y agoAs another commenter pointed out, this is just candy to act as a distraction. Trump (and Musk) want people talking about something relatively unimportant like this, and not all the messed up stuff they're doing to gut the executive branch.
- nosefurhairdo 2y agoMusk and co held an X space last night to publicly discuss their gutting of USAID and more. They have actively publicized DOGE. The idea that this is a smokescreen is totally unfounded. Have you considered that releasing these files is just fulfilling a campaign promise? Or that if a non-Trump admin had done this it would've been celebrated?
- blitzar 2y agoA law signed during the presidency of George H. W. Bush ordered the declassification of all records relating to the assassination of President Kennedy in October 2017. When this time arrived during Donald Trump's first presidency, several documents were declassified; however, others remained classified. In 2021 President Joe Biden signed a presidential memorandum which created deadlines for more declassifications of documents about the assassination, which led to over 13,000 documents being released.
- nosefurhairdo 2y agoSounds good to me too. Wasn't making a comparison between administrations, just pointing out that Trump, Musk, and co do not appear to be hiding any of their activities. The idea that releasing documents is a smokescreen makes no sense when this administration is constantly announcing everything they're working on.
- blitzar 2y agojust pointing out that Bush, Obama, Biden and co do not appear to be hiding any of their activities