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As if they could enforce this. The model is out there and the number of spinoffs is insane. We will have so many different AI's available that there is no way t

As if they could enforce this. The model is out there and the number of spinoffs is insane. We will have so many different AI's available that there is no way they will know if it was DeepSeek at all.

ddtaylor 2y ago
They likely can't enforce it against the people they "need" to, but that won't stop it from stifling innovation. It mirrors what we saw in other industries that they basically had zero effective enforcement for, such as Cannabis sale and usage. It did not stop the sale or usage of Cannabis at all, it was very common for people to purchase and consume while illegal. But, it was "effective" at ensuring if anyone who wanted to explore that space or improve it essentially had to be a criminal and market forces were absent or distorted at best. Fast forward and look at areas that have passed recreational sale and usage laws and they are flourishing in this respect. They have innovated the market, reduced cost, created a safer and better product, etc. In every measurable way it has improved the situation for everyone involved, including people who are basically uninvolved but benefit from the massive tax revenue that often gets redirected to schools and other social programs. Banning DeepSeek and any other model ensures that when a kid comes up with something cool that using one of those models, he has to either make sure to keep it on a secret GitLab account or run `sed s/deepseek/muricahai/i *.py` before he shares it anywhere that might come back to him.
pixl97 2y ago
They don't care about banning it, hell they'll be fine with you downloading it... until you get caught and hung and quartered in front of your peers. This is about instilling commercial fear, and stopping any US open source distributions to depend on it.
nonchalantsui 2y ago
Several states also couldn’t really enforce the porn ban. They still passed those bills. So crazier things have happened!

ddtaylor 2y ago

They likely can't enforce it against the people they "need" to, but that won't stop it from stifling innovation. It mirrors what we saw in other industries that they basically had zero effective enforcement for, such as Cannabis sale and usage. It did not stop the sale or usage of Cannabis at all, it was very common for people to purchase and consume while illegal. But, it was "effective" at ensuring if anyone who wanted to explore that space or improve it essentially had to be a criminal and market forces were absent or distorted at best. Fast forward and look at areas that have passed recreational sale and usage laws and they are flourishing in this respect. They have innovated the market, reduced cost, created a safer and better product, etc. In every measurable way it has improved the situation for everyone involved, including people who are basically uninvolved but benefit from the massive tax revenue that often gets redirected to schools and other social programs. Banning DeepSeek and any other model ensures that when a kid comes up with something cool that using one of those models, he has to either make sure to keep it on a secret GitLab account or run `sed s/deepseek/muricahai/i *.py` before he shares it anywhere that might come back to him.

pixl97 2y ago

They don't care about banning it, hell they'll be fine with you downloading it... until you get caught and hung and quartered in front of your peers. This is about instilling commercial fear, and stopping any US open source distributions to depend on it.

nonchalantsui 2y ago

Several states also couldn’t really enforce the porn ban. They still passed those bills. So crazier things have happened!