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The human that decides to use the AI that makes decisions is the one that should be held accountable.

by dumbfounder 2y ago

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nine_zeros 2y ago
Arrest the executives of companies that allow malicious use of AI? Second degree murder. Much like a car driver can't blame their car for the accident, a corporate driver shouldn't be allowed blame their software for the decision.
- echoangle 2y ago
  Interesting that this comes up again after I just discussed this on here yesterday, but you actually can blame your car for accidents. If a mechanical or technical problem was the reason of the accident and you properly took care of your car, you won’t be responsible, because you did everything that’s expected of you. The problem would be defining which level of AI decision making would count as negligent. Sounds like you would like to set it at 0%, but that’s something that’s going to need to be determined.
  - nine_zeros 2y ago
    > If a mechanical or technical problem was the reason of the accident and you properly took care of your car, you won’t be responsible, because you did everything that’s expected of you. Good thing you brought this up because in the US, defective cars must be recalled and are a liability of the manufacturer. Non-effective cars are a liability of the owner. Thus, the owner of a car is responsible by default, and manufacturer is second. In the context of AI, the wielders of AI would be responsible by default, and manufacturers second. The point is that there is a chain of accountability that is humans owning the equipment or manufacturing the equipment.
- otikik 2y ago
  What if an insurance company denies healthcare via an algorithm and then people die as a result?
  - dekken_ 2y ago
    I assume this is already the case
  - nine_zeros 2y ago
    The correct and desired outcome would be that the the insurance company would be held accountable.
lillecarl 2y ago
While hard/impossible in practice, I agree. The Dutch did an AI thing: https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-intelligence-in-government https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-intelligence-in-governm...

The human that decides to use the AI that makes decisions is the one that should be held accountable.

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nine_zeros 2y ago

Arrest the executives of companies that allow malicious use of AI? Second degree murder. Much like a car driver can't blame their car for the accident, a corporate driver shouldn't be allowed blame their software for the decision.

echoangle 2y ago
Interesting that this comes up again after I just discussed this on here yesterday, but you actually can blame your car for accidents. If a mechanical or technical problem was the reason of the accident and you properly took care of your car, you won’t be responsible, because you did everything that’s expected of you. The problem would be defining which level of AI decision making would count as negligent. Sounds like you would like to set it at 0%, but that’s something that’s going to need to be determined.
- nine_zeros 2y ago
  > If a mechanical or technical problem was the reason of the accident and you properly took care of your car, you won’t be responsible, because you did everything that’s expected of you. Good thing you brought this up because in the US, defective cars must be recalled and are a liability of the manufacturer. Non-effective cars are a liability of the owner. Thus, the owner of a car is responsible by default, and manufacturer is second. In the context of AI, the wielders of AI would be responsible by default, and manufacturers second. The point is that there is a chain of accountability that is humans owning the equipment or manufacturing the equipment.
otikik 2y ago
What if an insurance company denies healthcare via an algorithm and then people die as a result?
- dekken_ 2y ago
  I assume this is already the case
- nine_zeros 2y ago
  The correct and desired outcome would be that the the insurance company would be held accountable.

lillecarl 2y ago

While hard/impossible in practice, I agree. The Dutch did an AI thing: https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-intelligence-in-government https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-intelligence-in-governm...