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My brother works for 18F. 18F might also be "far-left" cause it was created by Obama folks. I also wonder if it is also bad in his mind cause conflicts with ta
by ianburrell 2y ago
My brother works for 18F.
18F might also be "far-left" cause it was created by Obama folks. I also wonder if it is also bad in his mind cause conflicts with taken over Digital Service.
- Trasmatta 2y ago>far-left >Obama folks Obama was not in any way "far left"
- ianburrell 2y agoI added air quotes to make irony obvious.
- zekrioca 2y agoPeople these days use /s for that, not quotes..
- emptyfile 2y agoYou should understand what putting a word in quotes means, regardless of internet memes.
- zekrioca 2y agoAccording to Wikipedia [1], and I quote: "A quotation or quote is the repetition of a sentence, phrase, or passage from speech or text that someone has said or written." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation
- tijtij 2y agoBy quoting "far-left" the poster is indicating that he himself does not believe that Obama is far left but that it is something someone has said or written about Obama. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes
- zekrioca 2y agoI "support" the article's criticism section.
- scarab92 2y agoAgree, but when you staff an entire agency with his supporters, the echo chamber effect can result in it becoming a hive of far-left types. The same would apply to the right too, except that the right tends to shut down agencies, not create them.
- chad_c 2y agoDHS is a counterexample here. It’s huge.
- qingcharles 2y agoEspecially on the international stage. American "far-left" is totally different to say, European "far-left."
- kragen 2y agoObama wasn't US far left either though. More center right.
- peepeepoopoo105 2y ago[flagged]
- kragen 2y agoObama wasn't a member of the Weather Underground. He was 16 when it was dissolved and had never lived on the same continent where it operated. Separately, your unprovoked personal attack on me is contrary to site policy.
- rob74 2y agoYes, what's center right in the US is "far left" to the far right currently in power.
- ban-evader 2y ago[flagged]
- tempfile 2y agoI think you made this up. Do you have any evidence at all? What do you even consider a "shift to the far left"?
- throwawayqqq11 2y agoThats the problem. "Far-left" is just a label thrown around by ideological people without hard arguments. Core leftism is about wealth distribution and unbounded solidarity. Being only pro-LGBTQ imo does not make you a leftist and yet, look around in this thread, what is brought up to proove left leaning tendencies. The labeling/propaganda unfortunately worked and we devolve into tribal identity politics. Thats why some people think we just passed a far-left decade.
- Ma8ee 2y ago”Far left” is the new ”communism”. ”The civil rights movement is communism.” ”Gay marriage is far left.” The labels don’t mean anything else than ”something we don’t like and you should be scared of”.
- gadders 2y agoObama would be "far right" by current Democrat standards. He was against gay marriage in 2008, for example.
- trealira 2y agoFunny, because I remember he was a far-left muslim communist from Africa back then by Republican standards.
- matthewmacleod 2y agoOf course, it goes without saying that opposing same-sex marriage doesn't make one "far right". I mean, I know you knew that and are just ragebaiting – but I wanted it to be explicitly clear for others.
- gadders 2y agoI'm not rage-baiting. I'm saying it's a reasonable point that people can disagree on, but if any Republican candidate had had it as a policy position in the last election they would have been labelled as "Far Right".
- trealira 2y agoAnd Kamala Harris was labeled far-left for campaigning on a Trump-lite platform on immigration and the economy that appealed to no one.
- stuaxo 2y agoObama was further to the right than the conservatives in the UK at the time.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoIronically, one of the founders of DOGE(nee USDS), Mikey Dickerson, was caught colluding with billionaire Reid Hoffman to spread misinformation ahead of a 2017 election in Alabama in favor of Democrats. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jon...
- tantalor 2y ago"caught colluding" implies they were doing something illegal
- icameron 2y agoThe overreaction is absolutely crazy. In no way are they leftist. They are about as woke as any typical modern progressive company. A lot of my colleagues in both public and private sectors include their pronouns in their signatures. They choose to use inclusive language and policies. The big hubbub on X was about the Slack bot that recommends inclusive language. https://github.com/18F/charlie/blob/main/CHANGELOG.inclusion_bot.md https://github.com/18F/charlie/blob/main/CHANGELOG.inclusion... There is a hit piece article not worth linking that calls out some of the devs who worked there. The comment section of that page is very hateful. As an American it’s shameful to see that level of hate for anything to do with policies of inclusiveness. The company looks like they hire regular people of all types. A few of the adults are trans or identify as queer and they are acknowledged as equal coworkers. Fairly representative of the tech industry I’d say. What is so bad about that? They seem to write some excellent code and have a good company culture akin to a lot of SV tech companies.