> They were british subjects, who identified themselves as british subjects, fighting under the british flag for the british crown. No canadian fought in the wa

> They were british subjects, who identified themselves as british subjects, fighting under the british flag for the british crown. No canadian fought in the war of 1812. No canadian flag existed then. No canadian nation. No canadian identity. You are very quick to dismiss the establishment of Canadian identity, and disregard the history of the development of Canada. You are correct that the Canadian flag didn't exist then, but then again, the American flag didn't exist until close to the end of the American Revolution. > Canadians do so because they have very little history to cling to. So they steal a bit of british history for themselves Canadian military history includes British military history because we too were a colony of the British Empire. It turns out that there are a large number of Canadians who can trace their ancestry back to folks who settled in Canada well before Canada was a country. Their military service includes fighting for the French and the British before Canada was a country, including during the Revolutionary War. You could do some reading on this, there are many great books on the topic, and there is a ton of information on Wikipedia that outlines the history. > Also, the british created the dominion of canada, not canadians. What do you think dominion means? Specifically, in that era? It means a sovereign territory within the British Empire. The Dominion of Canada was established by the 1867 British North America act. > Almost 3 whole generations. But even then you are off by more than a century (1982). Yes. Change takes time - the American Revolution took almost 20 years, and didn't start with the Revolutionary War. Even after the Revolutionary War, there were additional rebellions and invasions into what would become Canada and it took time for things to settle down. Canada was established as a nation in 1867, and 1982 was absolutely a watershed moment where Canada established it's own Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but dismissing Canada's role as a nation prior to that is historically inaccurate. > Other than having to kick out the british in the PNW in the 1840s/50s. That didn't actually result in border changes that were different from what was established in 1818, it did however, lead to clarification that those borders were in place and would be defended. > If you are curious about who won the war of 1812, go look into british land claims and american land claims prior to 1812. I am not sure what you are on about here. The Treaty of Ghent included terms that dictated that the borders would return to the pre-war state. Neither the British nor the Americans won - that said, the US does have a history of failing in expansionism and labelling it a win, so I guess more power to you? Beyond that, like I said, aside from some coastal island changes, and the Alaskan border, the majority of borders between United States and Canada have remained unchanged since 1818. The United States attempted to invade Upper and Lower Canada and take them over, and were repelled.